Message from @Hagel

Discord ID: 403299678013227028


2018-01-17 21:22:15 UTC  

IT IS LOGICAL THAT CHAIRNESS WILL BE THERE

2018-01-17 21:22:25 UTC  

FOR THIS REASON, THERE IS AN INFORMATIONAL SUBSTRATE TO THE UNIVERSE

2018-01-17 21:22:41 UTC  

AND THEREFORE, THOUGHTS INFLUENCE MATTER (CF. HERMETICISM) MUCHAS DEEDS DO

2018-01-17 21:22:50 UTC  

BUT WHAT MATTERS IN THE LONG TERM

2018-01-17 21:22:58 UTC  

IS HOW WE USE PHYSICALITY TO INFLUENCE THE PATTERNS AROUND US

2018-01-17 21:23:04 UTC  

I.E. WHAT IS ACHIEVED IN AN IDEALISTIC SENSE

2018-01-17 21:23:56 UTC  

THAT IS: THE DEMANDS OF THE SITUATION DETERMINE WHAT FILLS IT
THE PATTERN "EXISTS" IN THE FORMS OF THE MATHEMATICS OF THE UNIVERSE

Can you detail this out

2018-01-17 21:24:18 UTC  

these*

2018-01-17 21:24:47 UTC  

maybe with just an example

2018-01-17 21:27:27 UTC  

CONSIDER THE FORM OF A FISH

2018-01-17 21:27:38 UTC  

WE KNOW THE NATURE OF PLANETS AND THE NATURE OF WATER

2018-01-17 21:27:39 UTC  

Better

2018-01-17 21:27:50 UTC  

FOR LIFE TO SURVIVE IN WATER, IT MUST HAVE A FORM ADAPTED TO WATER

2018-01-17 21:27:57 UTC  

NAMELY, PROPULSION IS NOT LEGS (LOL)

2018-01-17 21:28:10 UTC  

SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE SIMPLEST POSSIBLE FORM WOULD BE A FLIPPER WITH A HEAD

2018-01-17 21:28:19 UTC  

THEN, BECAUSE IT WILL NEED STABILITY AND STEERING, IT HAS FINS

2018-01-17 21:28:30 UTC  

ONE COULD ALSO USE THE EYE AS AN EXAMPLE

2018-01-17 21:28:39 UTC  

IN A WORLD WHERE VISION IS THE MOST EFFICIENT WAY TO ACCURATE ASSESS SURROUNDINGS

2018-01-17 21:28:44 UTC  

YOU NEED SOMETHING LIKE A LITTLE CAMERA

2018-01-17 21:28:51 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/403299656416624640/1455907481108.gif

2018-01-17 21:28:56 UTC  

It's not good to start from that direction and work backward

2018-01-17 21:29:03 UTC  

It assumes that what happened had to happen and was the only way

2018-01-17 21:29:09 UTC  

NOT NECESSARILY

2018-01-17 21:29:16 UTC  

BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LOOKING AT CAUSALITY

2018-01-17 21:29:19 UTC  

BUT DEMANDS OF CONTEXT

2018-01-17 21:29:27 UTC  

DESIGN AN ANIMAL TO SWIM THROUGH WATER

2018-01-17 21:29:36 UTC  

DESIGNS WILL CONVERGE ON FISH SHAPES WHEN EFFICIENCY IS REQUIRED

2018-01-17 21:29:41 UTC  

For a long time, there was no species which occupied the human niche

2018-01-17 21:29:48 UTC  

E.G. I CAN ENVISION SOMETHING THAT SWIMS WITH TEN THOUSAND HANDS BUT

2018-01-17 21:29:51 UTC  

THAT IS NOT VERY EFFICIENT

2018-01-17 21:29:52 UTC  

There may yet be forms that haven't been seen

2018-01-17 21:29:55 UTC  

TO USE OR TO REPRODUCE

2018-01-17 21:30:00 UTC  

THERE MAY BE OTHER FORMS

2018-01-17 21:30:01 UTC  

And possibilities that could have been

2018-01-17 21:30:04 UTC  

THERE IS MORE THAN ONE WAY TO DO ANYTHING

2018-01-17 21:30:05 UTC  

BUT

2018-01-17 21:30:08 UTC  

A FISH IS THE SIMPLEST

2018-01-17 21:30:14 UTC  

SO IT IS INEVITABLE THAT SOMETHING LIKE IT WILL EXIST

2018-01-17 21:30:18 UTC  

IN THAT ENVIRONMENT

2018-01-17 21:30:31 UTC  

so your theory is that forms are basically emergent out of concrete relationships and certain demands

2018-01-17 21:30:42 UTC  

IF WE CHANGE FACTORS OF THAT ENVIRONMENT, THE DESIGN MAY CHANGE (FOR EXAMPLE, GRAVITY)