Message from diversity_is_racism in Realism #general


2018-01-17 21:35:52 UTC  

A FISH IS A PURELY LOGICAL DESIGN

2018-01-17 21:36:02 UTC  

SO IS MATTER, WHEN YOU CONSIDER A SYSTEM FOR MANIFESTING AND COMPARING PATTERNS

2018-01-17 21:36:30 UTC  

ok so let's say there's no concrete fish

2018-01-17 21:36:39 UTC  

anywhere

2018-01-17 21:37:03 UTC  

what's the pattern doing

2018-01-17 21:38:56 UTC  

Does it exist yet?

2018-01-17 21:39:25 UTC  

YES, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE IDEA OF REALITY ITSELF

2018-01-17 21:39:33 UTC  

IDEA IS CAUSE OF MATERIAL PATTERN

2018-01-17 21:39:53 UTC  

AND WITHOUT TIME AS PART OF THE EQUATION, WE CAN SEE HOW THE IDEA LEADS ITSELF NECESSARILY TO OTHER VARIATIONS

2018-01-17 21:39:59 UTC  

SO YES, IT IS INNATE TO THE UNIVERSE

2018-01-17 21:42:16 UTC  

ok so the fish idea basically floats around doing nothing for long periods of time until actual concrete relationships and circumstances happen. Then badabingbadaboom the idea of fish has a concrete instance. So the actual causal mechanism here isn't the idea.

2018-01-17 21:42:45 UTC  

THE CAUSAL MECHANISM IS THE IDEA

2018-01-17 21:42:57 UTC  

UNTIL A PATTERN EXISTS -- IN THIS CASE, THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE FISH -- THE IDEA DOES NOT HAVE AN INSTANCE

2018-01-17 21:43:01 UTC  

THAT WE KNOW OF AT LEAST

2018-01-17 21:44:11 UTC  

sup

2018-01-17 21:44:17 UTC  

HOWDY

2018-01-17 21:44:21 UTC  

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FISH

2018-01-17 21:44:46 UTC  

the linux shell?

2018-01-17 21:46:22 UTC  

NO, THE SWIMMING ANIMAL

2018-01-17 21:46:24 UTC  

AND ITS DESIGN

2018-01-17 21:46:29 UTC  

RE: PLATONISM AND GERMAN IDEALISM

2018-01-17 21:46:38 UTC  

Yeah an idea without an instance means it doesn't have any power. Otherwise there would always be fish, and water and so on

2018-01-17 21:47:36 UTC  

without any instances the idea is just *floating* in the aether doing nothing

2018-01-17 21:47:39 UTC  

NOT NECESSARILY

2018-01-17 21:47:52 UTC  

IF WE REMOVE TIME AS CAUSALITY, WHICH PATTERN LOGIC IMPLIES

2018-01-17 21:48:04 UTC  

THEN THERE IS AN INEVITABILITY TO EXPANSION INTO THAT AREA

2018-01-17 21:48:17 UTC  

MUCH AS WITH THE IDEA OF PLANETS, IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT A HABITABLE PLANET IS A SUBSET

2018-01-17 21:48:19 UTC  

TRUE, ONE MUST WAIT

2018-01-17 21:48:22 UTC  

BUT THE DESIGN IS THERE

2018-01-17 21:48:25 UTC  

TIED INTO THE LARGER IDEA

2018-01-17 21:48:51 UTC  

you mean make time infinite

2018-01-17 21:49:15 UTC  

OR JUST REMOVE IT FROM OUR CAUSALITY CALCULUS

2018-01-17 21:49:34 UTC  

IF WE VIEW IDEAS AS RELATED, WITHOUT TIME, WE SEE FISH AS A FACET OF THE NOTION OF REALITY ITSELF

2018-01-17 21:49:39 UTC  

Removing it would be eternity which is basically a stagnant image of every single instance

2018-01-17 21:49:40 UTC  

WHICH MEANS THAT IT IS INEVITABLE

2018-01-17 21:49:48 UTC  

EVEN IF NOT IN A PARTICULAR INSTANT

2018-01-17 21:49:52 UTC  

NOT NECESSARILY STAGNANT

2018-01-17 21:50:05 UTC  

ONE IN WHICH ALL HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED

2018-01-17 21:50:12 UTC  

WITHOUT TIME, THERE IS NO STAGNATION

2018-01-17 21:50:21 UTC  

AND SINCE TIME IS A PRODUCT OF RELATIVITY...