Message from @diversity_is_racism
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IT MAY NOT EXIST IN CONCRETE FORM, AS IN WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE IN THE STARS
BUT IT IS PART OF THAT LARGER IDEA
A FISH IS A PURELY LOGICAL DESIGN
SO IS MATTER, WHEN YOU CONSIDER A SYSTEM FOR MANIFESTING AND COMPARING PATTERNS
ok so let's say there's no concrete fish
anywhere
what's the pattern doing
Does it exist yet?
YES, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE IDEA OF REALITY ITSELF
IDEA IS CAUSE OF MATERIAL PATTERN
AND WITHOUT TIME AS PART OF THE EQUATION, WE CAN SEE HOW THE IDEA LEADS ITSELF NECESSARILY TO OTHER VARIATIONS
SO YES, IT IS INNATE TO THE UNIVERSE
ok so the fish idea basically floats around doing nothing for long periods of time until actual concrete relationships and circumstances happen. Then badabingbadaboom the idea of fish has a concrete instance. So the actual causal mechanism here isn't the idea.
THE CAUSAL MECHANISM IS THE IDEA
UNTIL A PATTERN EXISTS -- IN THIS CASE, THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE FISH -- THE IDEA DOES NOT HAVE AN INSTANCE
THAT WE KNOW OF AT LEAST
sup
HOWDY
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FISH
the linux shell?
AND ITS DESIGN
RE: PLATONISM AND GERMAN IDEALISM
Yeah an idea without an instance means it doesn't have any power. Otherwise there would always be fish, and water and so on
without any instances the idea is just *floating* in the aether doing nothing
NOT NECESSARILY
IF WE REMOVE TIME AS CAUSALITY, WHICH PATTERN LOGIC IMPLIES
THEN THERE IS AN INEVITABILITY TO EXPANSION INTO THAT AREA
MUCH AS WITH THE IDEA OF PLANETS, IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT A HABITABLE PLANET IS A SUBSET
TRUE, ONE MUST WAIT
BUT THE DESIGN IS THERE
TIED INTO THE LARGER IDEA
you mean make time infinite
OR JUST REMOVE IT FROM OUR CAUSALITY CALCULUS
IF WE VIEW IDEAS AS RELATED, WITHOUT TIME, WE SEE FISH AS A FACET OF THE NOTION OF REALITY ITSELF
Removing it would be eternity which is basically a stagnant image of every single instance
WHICH MEANS THAT IT IS INEVITABLE
EVEN IF NOT IN A PARTICULAR INSTANT
NOT NECESSARILY STAGNANT
ONE IN WHICH ALL HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED
WITHOUT TIME, THERE IS NO STAGNATION