Message from @༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻
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CLEARLY THEY EXIST
BUT WE USUALLY CONFUSE THEM FOR THEIR MANIFESTATION
I'm just asking questions right now
IF WE VIEW THE UNIVERSE AS AN IDEA
Oh hi
WITH SOME PROPERTIES
What's going on, guys?
THEN OTHER PROPERTIES EMERGE FROM THE INTERACTION OF THOSE
HI @Fenix704
WE'RE GETTING DRUNK AND TALKING PLATONISM
lol
Uuuuuh
Atlantis....?
I haven't been taught this stuff yet guys, I'm trying
Does the structure change or is every idea always "out there*
I don't start Philosophy until this and the following course pass
HMM, WELL, HANG IN THERE
WE WILL EITHER LIBERATE YOUR MIND OR MAKE YOU FAIL THE COURSE
@༺པརབྱར།བསངཇ༻ THE IDEA IS INHERENT TO THE COMPOSITION OF THE UNIVERSE
WHICH ITSELF IS AN OUTPOURING OF LOGICALITY
THAT IS, THERE IS A CERTAIN WAY -- BASED ON THE INTERACTION OF NUMBERS OR PATTERNS -- THAT THINGS MUST TURN OUT
IT IS IN EXISTENCE AS AN IMPLICATION OF THE IDEA OF REALITY
IT MAY NOT EXIST IN CONCRETE FORM, AS IN WRITTEN DOWN SOMEWHERE IN THE STARS
BUT IT IS PART OF THAT LARGER IDEA
A FISH IS A PURELY LOGICAL DESIGN
SO IS MATTER, WHEN YOU CONSIDER A SYSTEM FOR MANIFESTING AND COMPARING PATTERNS
ok so let's say there's no concrete fish
anywhere
what's the pattern doing
Does it exist yet?
YES, BECAUSE IT IS PART OF THE IDEA OF REALITY ITSELF
IDEA IS CAUSE OF MATERIAL PATTERN
AND WITHOUT TIME AS PART OF THE EQUATION, WE CAN SEE HOW THE IDEA LEADS ITSELF NECESSARILY TO OTHER VARIATIONS
SO YES, IT IS INNATE TO THE UNIVERSE
ok so the fish idea basically floats around doing nothing for long periods of time until actual concrete relationships and circumstances happen. Then badabingbadaboom the idea of fish has a concrete instance. So the actual causal mechanism here isn't the idea.
THE CAUSAL MECHANISM IS THE IDEA
UNTIL A PATTERN EXISTS -- IN THIS CASE, THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE FISH -- THE IDEA DOES NOT HAVE AN INSTANCE
THAT WE KNOW OF AT LEAST
sup
HOWDY