Message from @diversity_is_racism
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IDEA IS CAUSE OF MATERIAL PATTERN
AND WITHOUT TIME AS PART OF THE EQUATION, WE CAN SEE HOW THE IDEA LEADS ITSELF NECESSARILY TO OTHER VARIATIONS
SO YES, IT IS INNATE TO THE UNIVERSE
ok so the fish idea basically floats around doing nothing for long periods of time until actual concrete relationships and circumstances happen. Then badabingbadaboom the idea of fish has a concrete instance. So the actual causal mechanism here isn't the idea.
THE CAUSAL MECHANISM IS THE IDEA
UNTIL A PATTERN EXISTS -- IN THIS CASE, THE ENVIRONMENT OF THE FISH -- THE IDEA DOES NOT HAVE AN INSTANCE
THAT WE KNOW OF AT LEAST
WE ARE TALKING ABOUT FISH
the linux shell?
NO, THE SWIMMING ANIMAL
AND ITS DESIGN
RE: PLATONISM AND GERMAN IDEALISM
Yeah an idea without an instance means it doesn't have any power. Otherwise there would always be fish, and water and so on
without any instances the idea is just *floating* in the aether doing nothing
IF WE REMOVE TIME AS CAUSALITY, WHICH PATTERN LOGIC IMPLIES
THEN THERE IS AN INEVITABILITY TO EXPANSION INTO THAT AREA
MUCH AS WITH THE IDEA OF PLANETS, IT BECOMES CLEAR THAT A HABITABLE PLANET IS A SUBSET
TRUE, ONE MUST WAIT
BUT THE DESIGN IS THERE
TIED INTO THE LARGER IDEA
you mean make time infinite
OR JUST REMOVE IT FROM OUR CAUSALITY CALCULUS
IF WE VIEW IDEAS AS RELATED, WITHOUT TIME, WE SEE FISH AS A FACET OF THE NOTION OF REALITY ITSELF
Removing it would be eternity which is basically a stagnant image of every single instance
WHICH MEANS THAT IT IS INEVITABLE
EVEN IF NOT IN A PARTICULAR INSTANT
NOT NECESSARILY STAGNANT
ONE IN WHICH ALL HAVE BEEN EXPRESSED
WITHOUT TIME, THERE IS NO STAGNATION
AND SINCE TIME IS A PRODUCT OF RELATIVITY...
1993: WHY DOES THIS BROWSER SUCK?
2018: WHY DOES THIS BROWSER SUCK?
AN ETERNAL CYCLE
how does the idea guarantee that stuff will shuffle around until it gets to be an instance
That's basically the implication here
I mean it's easy to sit here and point to a fish and say ah well it was inevitable eventually. Can you look into the underlying order and find me patterns which haven't had their day?