Message from @UOC

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2018-02-27 18:17:27 UTC  

Christians demand that the Christian world-historic perspective never be brought into question at all

2018-02-27 18:17:28 UTC  

No

2018-02-27 18:17:35 UTC  

Just general observation

2018-02-27 18:18:30 UTC  

@UOC that was to AK

2018-02-27 18:18:41 UTC  

ah

2018-02-27 18:18:47 UTC  

Sorry

2018-02-27 18:19:12 UTC  

Ever hear of defector syndrome @UOC

2018-02-27 18:19:49 UTC  

no, tell me

2018-02-27 18:21:30 UTC  

It's a habit of radicals to marginalize themselves by using rhetoric that only appeals to the already converted

2018-02-27 18:22:07 UTC  

I have been watching a PERFECT example of that taking place

2018-02-27 18:22:47 UTC  

Within the keto / low-carb diet communities that now exist online, there is this dude named Shawn Baker who is pushing this purely meat diet.

2018-02-27 18:23:34 UTC  

and since he's gained a little following his rhetoric has exploded into aggressive and very marginalizing stuff that would really push anyone on the fence away and never convince even normal low-carb people

2018-02-27 18:23:39 UTC  

much less true normies

2018-02-27 18:24:11 UTC  

yeah dude

2018-02-27 18:24:21 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/418111128850268170/Screenshot_20180226-192525.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/267086373285134338/418111129441533972/Screenshot_20180226-192551.png

2018-02-27 18:24:38 UTC  

he used to cite studies and talk about healing peoples injuries and stuff lol

2018-02-27 18:25:01 UTC  

This sheep *wines* incessantly. <- W/b my comment.

2018-02-27 18:26:33 UTC  

Honestly that's hardly far off in exact verbage from other shit

2018-02-27 18:26:54 UTC  

You can make a Bullshit Generator out of it at this point

2018-02-27 18:28:43 UTC  

I am awaiting Baker's inevitable intersection with the alt right

2018-02-27 18:29:09 UTC  

maybe he can get Richard Spencer on an all meat diet and cure his flabby androgyny

2018-02-27 18:29:46 UTC  

Does eating meat fix lisps?

2018-02-27 18:30:09 UTC  

that's a study whose time has come

2018-02-27 18:31:14 UTC  

@Arthur Konrad I think you're making a good observation when you say that there is only one single ruling reality

2018-02-27 18:31:29 UTC  

good one lol

2018-02-27 18:31:59 UTC  

but I'm curious what you mean when you say "the problem is that the "alternatives" fit back into this reality"

2018-02-27 18:32:06 UTC  

you lost me there

2018-02-27 18:48:13 UTC  

the kind of reality where no foundations are going to be laid for any conceivable future

2018-02-27 18:48:28 UTC  

but only some very vague image of some kind of "management of the present" exists at best

2018-02-27 18:50:08 UTC  

So to put this back into Evolian terms, you're less interested in managing the decline and more interested in planning to rebuild. So people advocating half-measures solely aimed at managing decline aren't helping.

2018-02-27 18:51:12 UTC  

I'm not interested in either, but this is mere theoretizing

2018-02-27 18:51:16 UTC  

however

2018-02-27 18:51:23 UTC  

take ethnonationalism for example

2018-02-27 18:51:42 UTC  

which is proposed like a working model, and which certainly has its strengths

2018-02-27 18:51:50 UTC  

how do people conceive it to work ?

2018-02-27 18:52:02 UTC  

essentially by nations sitting down and defining their borders

2018-02-27 18:52:28 UTC  

but here is how dishonesty comes into play (and it must ! ethnonationalism as conceived by contemporary Right cannot contain a grain of honesty in it )

2018-02-27 18:52:35 UTC  

supposed you are German

2018-02-27 18:53:16 UTC  

you say "well, lets have back our historical territories, this and that, from this province to this province, deport all others, and voila, we have a working solution"

2018-02-27 18:53:55 UTC  

but now, suppose you say the same to the Chinese, and some ethnonationalist says "whoa hold there, Chinese must give Tibetans freedom, and Mongols and UYghurs"

2018-02-27 18:54:06 UTC  

and Chinese says the same to Germans