Message from @Draugra

Discord ID: 429297272518344704


2018-03-30 15:10:13 UTC  

NNurturing this kind of personal Anarchism regarding 99% of things social, public, political and informative is what could promise a way out

2018-03-30 15:10:14 UTC  

BALKANIZATION IS INEVITABLE

2018-03-30 15:10:30 UTC  

AS DIVERSITY AND DEMOCRACY LOSE THE FAITH OF THE PEOPLE UNDER THEM, WE ARE SEEING A CAMPAIGN LIKE THE OVERTHROW OF THE SOVIETS

2018-03-30 15:10:41 UTC  

PEOPLE WANT TO BE ABLE TO OBSERVE WHAT IS TRUE AND SPEAK OF IT

2018-03-30 15:10:51 UTC  

THAT BREAKS DOWN THE NARRATIVE, AT WHICH POINT GOVERNMENT BECOMES UNCERTAIN

2018-03-30 15:10:54 UTC  

REGIME CHANGE IS INEVITABLE

2018-03-30 15:11:19 UTC  

@Arthur Konrad I don't think I have any problems with that, really. I think that would start things up nicely

2018-03-30 15:11:25 UTC  

Without this absolute sovereignty combined with complete anarchism regarding socially orchestrated reality, one cannot escape manipulation

2018-03-30 15:11:25 UTC  

@Arthur Konrad THAT IS ESSENTIALLY THE LIBERTARIAN VIEW, ANARCHY = FREEDOM OF ASSOCIATION

2018-03-30 15:11:31 UTC  

HOWEVER, THE PROBLEM IS THE CROWD

2018-03-30 15:11:36 UTC  

SO GIVE THEM FREEDOM AND... REPEAT!

2018-03-30 15:11:47 UTC  

PEOPLE CANNOT ESCAPE MANIPULATION PERIOD

2018-03-30 15:11:53 UTC  

90% OF THEM ARE ENTIRELY FOLLOWERS

2018-03-30 15:12:01 UTC  

THE 9% CAN MAKE SOME CHOICES BUT USUALLY MISS THE BIGGER POINT

2018-03-30 15:12:01 UTC  

Yes, but out of anarchic situation can never follow libertarianism, that much is evident

2018-03-30 15:12:11 UTC  

YOUR TOP 1% OF NATURAL ELITES HAVE A CHANCE, BUT EVEN THEN, NEED SOME DISCIPLINE

2018-03-30 15:12:22 UTC  

out of anarchic moment always follows authoritarian rule, or primitivism at least

2018-03-30 15:12:23 UTC  

LIBERTARIANISM IS ESSENTIALLY ANARCHISM WITH MARKETS

2018-03-30 15:12:32 UTC  

SINCE MARKETS NATURALLY APPEAR THIS IS NOT ALTOGETHER WRONG

2018-03-30 15:12:34 UTC  

SIMPLY INCOMPLETE

2018-03-30 15:14:05 UTC  

@diversity_is_racism I don't think he is against organic leadership among the "anarchic" groups. They would not be government because they would be organic. They would be anarchic to our current regime. As for the herd, who cares? We'll take what we can get along the way and when we are able, after decades, to make our own infrastructure plus whatever minute influence we can have on the established Federation, we would be able to expand.

2018-03-30 15:14:13 UTC  

My views are related to opposing The System

2018-03-30 15:14:24 UTC  

I don't mean to seem naive or optimistic about this topic either.

2018-03-30 15:14:29 UTC  

I realize it might not work at all.

2018-03-30 15:14:49 UTC  

THE SYSTEM IS CREATED AUTOMATICALLY BY HERD BEHAVIOR

2018-03-30 15:14:56 UTC  

THIS IS WHY IT ARISES INDEPENDENTLY ACROSS CIVILIZATIONS

2018-03-30 15:15:01 UTC  

There needs to exist this kind of very flexible sense of evaluation that will be entirely found in principles

2018-03-30 15:15:51 UTC  

Take for example the msot banal discussion, like music - one will make a judgment on what to give attention to based on implied value system. Some things will naturally flow out of certain values, others will not be so apparent

2018-03-30 15:17:22 UTC  

Also a great flexibility in spiritual affairs, that needs to be in a positive sense, depersonalized, like a form of a positive subterranean spiritual framework, but that will be wholly pluralistic and founded in pluralism of forms, but singularity of substance

2018-03-30 15:17:31 UTC  

Is that what you think will have more breathing room with anti-System politics?

2018-03-30 15:17:57 UTC  

The idea is a secession on a personal and spiritual level, but starting with personal

2018-03-30 15:18:18 UTC  

SECESSION HAS ITS LIMITS

2018-03-30 15:18:20 UTC  

SIGNED, THE SOUTH

2018-03-30 15:18:21 UTC  

One must sense the outter world as being a some kind of externally growing organism that one could not possibly internalize

2018-03-30 15:18:50 UTC  

I DO NOT THINK THERE IS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION

2018-03-30 15:18:53 UTC  

PEOPLE ARE NOT EQUAL

2018-03-30 15:18:59 UTC  

THE ONLY SOLUTION THEREFORE BEGINS WITH RECOGNIZING THAT

2018-03-30 15:19:25 UTC  

I don't think he is basing his stance on equality though. Rather, that you can't change people, you can only change yourself.

2018-03-30 15:19:29 UTC  

Take a view out of your window, observe all the buildings, pavements, television sets, billboards, minorities, agitators, offices - literally as if they are flora growing out of the soil, a nasty kind of flora, a fungi

2018-03-30 15:19:57 UTC  

My concern is that maybe if we start with the personal that it will be the sole focus once that snowball gets going. Once you are on the path, you need to find fellow travellers.

2018-03-30 15:20:11 UTC  

Then again, starting with the personal might be all that we can do.