SIMPLY INCOMPLETE

@diversity_is_racism I don't think he is against organic leadership among the "anarchic" groups. They would not be government because they would be organic. They would be anarchic to our current regime. As for the herd, who cares? We'll take what we can get along the way and when we are able, after decades, to make our own infrastructure plus whatever minute influence we can have on the established Federation, we would be able to expand.

My views are related to opposing The System

I don't mean to seem naive or optimistic about this topic either.

I realize it might not work at all.

THE SYSTEM IS CREATED AUTOMATICALLY BY HERD BEHAVIOR

THIS IS WHY IT ARISES INDEPENDENTLY ACROSS CIVILIZATIONS

There needs to exist this kind of very flexible sense of evaluation that will be entirely found in principles

Take for example the msot banal discussion, like music - one will make a judgment on what to give attention to based on implied value system. Some things will naturally flow out of certain values, others will not be so apparent

Also a great flexibility in spiritual affairs, that needs to be in a positive sense, depersonalized, like a form of a positive subterranean spiritual framework, but that will be wholly pluralistic and founded in pluralism of forms, but singularity of substance

Is that what you think will have more breathing room with anti-System politics?

The idea is a secession on a personal and spiritual level, but starting with personal

SECESSION HAS ITS LIMITS

SIGNED, THE SOUTH

One must sense the outter world as being a some kind of externally growing organism that one could not possibly internalize

I DO NOT THINK THERE IS A ONE SIZE FITS ALL SOLUTION

PEOPLE ARE NOT EQUAL

THE ONLY SOLUTION THEREFORE BEGINS WITH RECOGNIZING THAT

I don't think he is basing his stance on equality though. Rather, that you can't change people, you can only change yourself.

Take a view out of your window, observe all the buildings, pavements, television sets, billboards, minorities, agitators, offices - literally as if they are flora growing out of the soil, a nasty kind of flora, a fungi

My concern is that maybe if we start with the personal that it will be the sole focus once that snowball gets going. Once you are on the path, you need to find fellow travellers.

Then again, starting with the personal might be all that we can do.

Promote this, and maintain this, and connect with the like minded, but not so fast in promoting positive values, as much as in ignoring systemic values

YOU CANNOT CHANGE PEOPLE, BUT YOU CAN CHANGE ATTITUDES

WHEN THOSE ATTITUDES DELIVER US FROM EQUALITY, WE CAN HAVE HIERARCHY

UNTIL THAT TIME, PERSONAL SECESSION IS MERELY ACQUIESCENCE

I'm starting from my own premise that the problem is of much greater scope than the simple social apathy

Progress is following its own imperatives now, and as I've outlined, many of things started to be self-important

Ai for example, the most striking example of a thing that has no importance other than in a very strange sense, in itself

It's a golem

People have in fact finally developed this sense of uneasiness, in that they feel that they are subjected to something mechanical and dehumanized, that the process is going out of any direct and tangible human direction and intervention

They feel oppressed by things they hardly can believe are operated by any single individual, merely through the extension of the principle of action-consequences out of the scope of human control

Everything has some "utilitarian" purpose, except that the original design is perpatually lost in the immediate past, which itself pushed into the farther past by the next most immediate past

Until no one has any idea where it is all going, if you are able to understand me

We live in a system perpetually solving problems whose creator is almost untraceable

@diversity_is_racism Too true but gotta start somewhere
@Arthur Konrad But they are still going to maintain pedestalizing of equality as a value unless they realize this is the damaging assumption. This is what really started it all. There is an untracable creator because the people and their bad ideas and the false leaders that they put up to reflect their inadequate values back to them are all just scrambling around for their own personal dramas. This is death of a thousand cuts, 300 Million to be more precise, and when they accept that they have been promoting something that is unsustainable and wrong, then they will be able to fix it. Every time they make something new, but then say that they only care about "character" or "doing the job" they will have an intern that will run a small website who will then enforce stupidity and usher in all of the co-opting friends they can get through the door. When they realize that they have to come to term with who their people actually are, they will be able to play a role in actually building something with integrity. Until then, it will just be more of the same.

What do you think about Islam - does Islam promote egalitarianism, and does Islam solve any of the problems

No matter how Christian, no matter how philosophical, no matter how smart, no matter how moral, no matter how kind: a liberal and a brown person will never be one of them no matter what they do.

Yes, Islam does promote egalitarianism

It pushes an over arching set of premises and assumptions that all people are to follow equally. So long as someone is able to make something Haram, it is permissible. See homosexuality and molestation of children as an example. Muslims don't care about gays. They care about the title of gay.

A Burka and a submissive facade and a Muslim woman can run the whole god damn lot of them.