Message from @Arthur Konrad

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2018-04-01 14:53:53 UTC  

Waiting for miracles at this point.

2018-04-01 15:13:44 UTC  

Modern idea of "Semitism' has nothing in common with the ancient world

2018-04-01 15:15:07 UTC  

Ancient Levant was composed of several distinct cultures such as Hellenic, Semitic, Assyrian-Armenian-Babylonian type, the Canaanite world and all non-Jewish polities existing from Judea to Galilee, as well as pagan herding cultures living in the Arabian peninsula

2018-04-01 15:15:40 UTC  

Then we move towards Berbers, Hellenes and Egyptians living from Egypt to Mauritania, the Nubians, Phoenicians, Carthagians

2018-04-01 15:16:14 UTC  

No, it has a lot in common.

2018-04-01 15:16:25 UTC  

this was obviously a meeting place of distinct strains of races, types, derivations, spiritual outlooks

2018-04-01 15:16:37 UTC  

Semitic peoples shared then, as they do now, a commonality of language and race.

2018-04-01 15:16:55 UTC  

It ain'nt necesarily sooooooo

2018-04-01 15:17:15 UTC  

"Semitic peoples' yes, but ancient Levant wasn't even majority semitic to begin with

2018-04-01 15:17:29 UTC  

This is like saying because Germans are different from Russians, "indo-European" isn't a viable category.

2018-04-01 15:17:38 UTC  

It's noise.

2018-04-01 15:17:48 UTC  

Moderns when they say "Semitic" they apply it to historical period as if all Middle East was some kind of natural semitic breeding ground

2018-04-01 15:18:07 UTC  

That allows not so clever types such as Varg to declare that Semites hate nature and everything because they live in desert

2018-04-01 15:18:28 UTC  

Forgetting that the "desert" was a polytheist place for thousands of years

2018-04-01 15:18:42 UTC  

With cults similar or not similar to European ones

2018-04-01 15:18:56 UTC  

That's nice.

2018-04-01 15:19:46 UTC  

Canaanites for example praised El and the goddess Asherah in a pretty "Roman" fashion

2018-04-01 15:20:07 UTC  

Erecting altars under tree shades and offering sacrifices

2018-04-01 15:20:16 UTC  

i was talking about Semites and then you popped in saying not all middle easterners were semites.

2018-04-01 15:20:23 UTC  

Has nothing to do with what I was saying.

2018-04-01 15:20:58 UTC  

Yes, but I began with "Modern idea of semitism...." not mentioning you specifically at all

2018-04-01 15:21:09 UTC  

So you were talking to yourself at me?

2018-04-01 15:21:15 UTC  

are you an academic?

2018-04-01 15:21:23 UTC  

No

2018-04-01 15:21:29 UTC  

You should be.

2018-04-01 15:22:07 UTC  

"Ideal-types" that intellectuals tend to harbor tend to distort things, sometimes fatally

2018-04-01 15:22:48 UTC  

You see yourself as more pragmatic?

2018-04-01 15:22:56 UTC  

Hey, what's up?

2018-04-01 15:23:02 UTC  

My cock.

2018-04-01 15:23:22 UTC  

No, I do not mean to propose pragmatism, but sensibility

2018-04-01 15:23:30 UTC  

REALISM

2018-04-01 15:23:53 UTC  

I refuse these ideal types where "Middle East" is a Semitic dominion, and so on

2018-04-01 15:24:41 UTC  

Because we have a much richer historical picture. Europeans are doing themselves a great disservice. Apparently Jews are the most rightful claimants to middle-east and basically "define" the place according to modern European dimwits which is a crime

2018-04-01 15:24:44 UTC  

You know guys, in Spain we have these processions and we carry around religious images through cities and I think there was a guy vlogging about it because he thought the people on the processions were the KKK lol

2018-04-01 15:24:50 UTC  

Whatever happened with Alexander for example?

2018-04-01 15:25:33 UTC  

Yeah, Europeans aren't respecting their prior history of Rome and Greece.

2018-04-01 15:26:13 UTC  

Of course, I do not mean to berate Jews in themselves for no reason, I only intent to have a more clear and less contemporary geo-political view of historical process in general

2018-04-01 15:26:28 UTC  

Europeans have focus on Jewish history due to Christianity.

2018-04-01 15:26:43 UTC  

They care more about ancient Jews than greeks.

2018-04-01 15:27:02 UTC  

Especially Germanics.

2018-04-01 15:27:10 UTC  

Jews are or were simply one among many nations of Levant, not to mention of wider Near East