Message from @Horns

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2018-04-01 22:32:11 UTC  

AND YOU ARE HERE TO HOLD MY PENIS AND SHOW ME THE RIGHT WAY?

2018-04-01 22:32:13 UTC  

FANTASTIC

2018-04-01 22:32:18 UTC  

I WILL DELEGATE MY STAFF TO TAKE NOTES

2018-04-01 22:32:44 UTC  

Unlike your collection of servile INTJ cohosts, I've actually read these authors.

2018-04-01 22:34:15 UTC  

The discussion group Everitt Foster held on evola reached no deeper than the hypocrisy of modernity and equality.

2018-04-01 22:35:21 UTC  

Which everyone who would attend would already know anyway.

2018-04-01 22:36:53 UTC  

Even in regards to the more pragmatic sides of Evola, I've never seen anyone discuss his "apoliticism" in relation to the errors the alt-right made regarding Trump.

2018-04-01 22:37:26 UTC  

Nor his explicit repudiation of mass-movements as a foundational method.

2018-04-01 22:37:44 UTC  

They just meme RIDE THAT TIGER BRO

2018-04-01 22:39:59 UTC  

Nor have I ever seen anyone mention that he thought Hitler was "possessed by demons".

2018-04-01 22:42:11 UTC  

In that sloganeering bit you just did, Evola himself would fall under what you label "THERE ARE THOSE WHO WANT TO RIDE DOWN THE COLLAPSE"

2018-04-01 22:44:51 UTC  

Even staying at the pragmatic level, he also explicitly repudiated enclavism and biological reductionism.

2018-04-01 22:45:38 UTC  

You have a problem when you list people like Evola and Nietzsche as high influences and do the opposite of what they said.

2018-04-01 22:45:56 UTC  

Without confronting it.

2018-04-01 22:50:41 UTC  

He also believed individuality was grounded in a hierarchy which began with the universal and proceeded to the specific.

2018-04-01 22:51:22 UTC  

The divine (God) --> Imperial Churchwarriors ---> Local State ---> Tribe ---> Human

2018-04-01 22:51:59 UTC  

From high to low

2018-04-01 22:52:50 UTC  

It is the Divine that is the Real.

2018-04-01 22:53:37 UTC  

A human becomes an Individual to the extent that he is able to foreground himself in the Divine Real and act from it on the material plane.

2018-04-01 22:55:11 UTC  

The Imperium on down can decay and crash, but the Divine fire remains.

2018-04-01 22:55:54 UTC  

Which is why his work moved toward Perennialism and Guenon.

2018-04-01 22:56:55 UTC  

Explicitly rejecting empiricism in favor of "intellectual intuition", which in Guenon's form is close to meaning "revelation".

2018-04-01 22:57:16 UTC  

Via serious, grounded belief in a Traditional Religion.

2018-04-01 22:58:35 UTC  

And conveyed via initiated circles, as the official religions decay.

2018-04-01 23:00:39 UTC  

From the Evolan point of view, the alt right is Titanic chair re-arranging.

2018-04-01 23:01:12 UTC  

And Nietzche would just think it's what he wrote about Forster.

2018-04-01 23:01:35 UTC  

So that seems to me a problem.

2018-04-01 23:03:15 UTC  

I'll probably get some all-caps slogan and banned.

2018-04-01 23:03:22 UTC  

Used to it by now.

2018-04-01 23:03:33 UTC  

Ride that tiger.

2018-04-01 23:03:35 UTC  

Bro.

2018-04-02 00:00:20 UTC  

"The State is under the masculine aegis, while “society” and, by extension, the people, or demos, are under the feminine aegis. Once again, this is a primordial truth. The maternal domination, from which the political-virile principle subtracts itself, was also understood as the domination of Mother Earth and the Mothers of life and fertility, under whose power and tutelage existence was believed to unfold in its physical, biological, and collective-material aspects. The common mythological background is that of the duality of the luminous and heavenly deities, who are the gods of the political and heroic world on the one hand, and of the feminine and maternal deities of naturalistic existence, who were loved by the plebeian strata of society on the other hand. Thus, even in the ancient Roman world, the idea of State and of imperium (i.e., of the sacred authority) was strictly connected to the symbolic cult of the virile deities of heaven, of light and of the super-world in opposition to the dark region of the Mothers and the chthonic deities. "

2018-04-02 00:03:12 UTC  

It shouldn't be necessary to point out this is opposed to libertarianism, anarchism, and muh local government.

2018-04-02 00:04:14 UTC  

Nor does it support the alt-right method of idealizing a category of the foundational Material.

2018-04-02 00:06:16 UTC  

Alt-right is a form of Mother cult.

2018-04-02 00:06:28 UTC  

in his diction

2018-04-02 00:16:17 UTC  

"The previously mentioned gap between the political idea of State and the physical idea of “society” is found again in the opposition that exists between State and nation. The notions of nation, fatherland, and people, despite their romantic and idealistic halo, essentially belong to the naturalistic and biological plane and not the political one; they lead back to the “maternal” and physical dimension of a given collectivity. Wherever these concepts were emphasized and bestowed with the dignity of a primary element, this has always happened in a revolutionary or even polemical function toward the concept of the State and the pure principle of sovereignty. With the passage from the expression “by grace of God” (as approximate and stereotypical as it was, it still designated the true right “from above”) to that of “by will of the nation,” what really occurs is the above-mentioned inversion, which is not a shift just from an institutional structure to another, but also from one world to another world, separated by an unbridgeable hiatus. "

2018-04-02 00:49:21 UTC  

HERE IS YOUR LOGICAL FALLACY:

2018-04-02 00:49:25 UTC  

1. ASSUME EVOLA IS THE ONLY SOURCE

2018-04-02 00:49:28 UTC  

2. INTERPRET NARROWLY

2018-04-02 00:49:33 UTC  

3. CONTRAST EXCERPTS