Message from @diversity_is_racism
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AGAIN, WE NEED A CASTE SYSTEM
SOME JUST DO NOT GET IT
MOST PEOPLE ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THESE: https://www.reddit.com/r/askaconservative/wiki/introductory_reading
HOWEVER, IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND A CONSERVATIVE PHILOSOPHY, IT HELPS
ALSO TO CONSIDER THE CONTEXT OF A CLASSICAL EDUCATION
IF YOU ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CLASSICAL TEXTS
Serious in the sense that any occult philosophy is serious about creating a tradition that backdates to Atlantis or what have you.
IT WILL MAKE NO SENSE
STREAMS FROM THE HEAVENS
ATLANTIS IS KENNING
Hell the civil war is kenning to the degree that you can have two people argue whether it was about slavery, trade, competing economic models etc
AT SOME POINT, THAT ARGUMENT SIMPLY REVEALS ALIGNMENT
AT ANOTHER, ABILITY TO SEE HISTORY AS MORE THAN A SINGLE TRIGGER EVENT
SOME ARE MEDIA SHEEP
OTHERS ARE ANALYTICAL
EARLY MRA: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt3GM2AzwSE
In my experience it less reveals alignment than depth of knowledge. Not knowing a bunch of information is fine as long as that is paired with humility. Honestly the thing that keeps people loud, annoying, ignorant and the like isn't the media per se, it's that everyone has easily digestible over-generalized abstractions taken as truth that are tossed around in leiu of actually having real conversations.
The different between media and analytical in this arena is basically degrees of deftness.
I DISAGREE
THE MEDIA SHEEP ARE LOOKING AT OBJECTS IN A SINGLE DIMENSION
SOMEONE WHO THINKS THE CIVIL WAR IS ABOUT SLAVERY IS MISTAKING POLITICAL SYMBOLISM FOR REALITY, FOR EXAMPLE
SAME WAY SOMEONE WHO CARES TOO MUCH ABOUT FORD VS CHEVY
Slavery became symbolic but it wasn't merely a symbol
IN THE CONTEXT OF THE WAR, IT WAS A SYMBOL
THE ACTUAL MOTIVATION WAS ELSEWHERE
AS THE MORE NUANCED, COMPLEX HISTORY SHOWS
Cool, I get reddit "muh logical fallacy" response (in caps), then you passive aggressively talk about me to vigilance when I'm not here.
You're a faggot.
The latter isn't in dispute. The former, well, slavery as a force of moral rhetoric that carried practical consequences certainly functions better at building momentum than, I dunno, whether to federally enact trade barriers or free trade.
SLAVERY WAS ALREADY DOOMED
THE QUESTION WAS WHETHER TO LET THE MARKET DO IT OR NOT
WITH THE RISE OF LABOR SAVING DEVICES, IT WAS EASY TO SIMPLY HIRE PEOPLE
That isn't important
NO PENSIONS
IT IS VITAL
YOU ARE TRYING TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN PRETEXT AND CAUSE
no it isn't because we are talking in hindsight not what was apparent to people who were having real debates over policies back then.
ONE MUST NOT CONFUSE POLITICAL SYMBOLS WITH REALITY
VOTERS DO NOT LIKE NUANCE
WAS FERGUSON REALLY ABOUT MIKE BROWN?