in fact, what chance do I have to prove to anyone that their "nation" is no game changer whatsoever for the reality of today ? A man of Nietzsche's stature couldn't do that, and he was a quite eloquent man

what does "nationalism", except for it's simple tribal component whose utility i s by all sides besieged and

restrained by a thousand different misplaced sentiments

have to do with any historical, *vital* forces, forces that desire to triumph ? The answer is, very little. Nationalisms, when put forward as a supreme doctrine, get crushed mercilessly by those forces that seek to rule, *rule without apology*

"Ethnonationalism" is the most pathetic form of apologism, so pathetic that it essentially apologizes for its own existence !

Why there are so few japanese basketball players?

^^ This is precisely what I mean when I tell that I'm talking to a wall

You have precisely understood 0% of what I said

Putting aside the fact that none of you understand what Ethnonationalism is, what "Ethno" in "Ethnonationalism" is, purely philosophically speaking (not much)

Lets for a moment take a look at Japan and Ethnonationalism

FLash NEws: The concept of nation, and the concept of ethnicity have nothing on Earth to do with Asia !

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/goldman-ceos-deputy-cant-stop-wont-stop-spinning-184220506--sector.html

If Asians talk about nations and ethnicity, they borrow *our terms*

and when we talk about them as of "nations" and "ethnicities"

we again use *our terminology*

it is a perpetual "lost in translation" case, which is something that in this dire intellectual age only 1% can comprehend

In fact, pretty much everywhere outside Europe and Caucasus, the concept of ethnicity has been extended or appropriated, *but never wholly and as a carbon copy counterpart*

China is as nation as much as Italy is a nation, that is, it isn't !

IN fact, Italy is 10 times more an "ethnicity" than China

The fact alone that we talk about something so heterogenous as Italy as of a "nation" gives you all you need to know, if you have ears or eyes

China is, was and always will be a "middle kingdom", a subcontinent, much as India was

China is a racial state, and Han "people" are a race !

Before Mao and his ilk took over China, there were several dozen different tongues in China that could not comprehend each other, and several dozen differentiated peoples, cultures, styles and religions

China was *an Empire* and these people were subjects of a vast *Chinese Empire - The Middle Kingdom*

ALl these people had their names, and still have them even despite all repression - They were called Wu, Manchu, Yue, Tibetans, or whatever else they were

Japan was pretty much founded on the exact same principle, and different peoples and clans in Japan all had their name, and constituted a single Japanese race

Newsflash ethnonationalists: Japan means land of the rising sun, and Japanese is merely a denonym

In the same way "Deutsche" means "people who speak the language of the folk" and German is merely an exonym for the "Deutsche" people

The Great German Empire, and all following iterations of it, were more or less also well - *Empires* and included not only "Deutsche" people, but also other Germanic peoples, such as Valoons, Flandrians, Dutch, Swiss, Lombardians, and others

The reason these dimwits today so fancy China is probably because they are on the same intellectual level as these Chinese cronies in their burning desire to make everything on this sorry planet a "nation" - ONE UNDER GOD presumed !

To have nations 1.0, one must beforehand destroy everything that truly is *natio*, that truly is of *birth*, authentic and non-fabricated

Does the humor of your position elude you? Think of it: You made Negroes into a nation! I rest my case!

@Arthur Konrad I THINK MOST CONFUSE NATION-STATES WITH NATIONS, YES

THEY CANNOT THINK OUTSIDE THE PARADIGM OF GOVERNMENT

IT IS AMAZING TO SEE HOW MODERNIZED THEY HAVE BECOME

THE SOLUTION IS TO ARTICULATE THIS CLEARLY THROUGH LINK BETWEEN GENETICS, CULTURE, AND TRIBAL IDENTITY

PAN-NATIONALISM IS GOOD; RACIAL NATIONALISM IS CONFUSED

NATIONALISM WAS NEVER RACIAL, ONLY ETHNIC

THERE IS A BIT OF AN EXCEPTION FOR SIMILAR TRIBES THAT LIKE TO COEXIST, AS IN THE GERMANS AND THE U.K. (TO A DEGREE... NO IRISH!)

racial nationalism sounds even less sane than the concept of "ethno-nationalism as an ideology"