In fact, pretty much everywhere outside Europe and Caucasus, the concept of ethnicity has been extended or appropriated, *but never wholly and as a carbon copy counterpart*

China is as nation as much as Italy is a nation, that is, it isn't !

IN fact, Italy is 10 times more an "ethnicity" than China

The fact alone that we talk about something so heterogenous as Italy as of a "nation" gives you all you need to know, if you have ears or eyes

China is, was and always will be a "middle kingdom", a subcontinent, much as India was

China is a racial state, and Han "people" are a race !

Before Mao and his ilk took over China, there were several dozen different tongues in China that could not comprehend each other, and several dozen differentiated peoples, cultures, styles and religions

China was *an Empire* and these people were subjects of a vast *Chinese Empire - The Middle Kingdom*

ALl these people had their names, and still have them even despite all repression - They were called Wu, Manchu, Yue, Tibetans, or whatever else they were

Japan was pretty much founded on the exact same principle, and different peoples and clans in Japan all had their name, and constituted a single Japanese race

Newsflash ethnonationalists: Japan means land of the rising sun, and Japanese is merely a denonym

In the same way "Deutsche" means "people who speak the language of the folk" and German is merely an exonym for the "Deutsche" people

The Great German Empire, and all following iterations of it, were more or less also well - *Empires* and included not only "Deutsche" people, but also other Germanic peoples, such as Valoons, Flandrians, Dutch, Swiss, Lombardians, and others

The reason these dimwits today so fancy China is probably because they are on the same intellectual level as these Chinese cronies in their burning desire to make everything on this sorry planet a "nation" - ONE UNDER GOD presumed !

To have nations 1.0, one must beforehand destroy everything that truly is *natio*, that truly is of *birth*, authentic and non-fabricated

Does the humor of your position elude you? Think of it: You made Negroes into a nation! I rest my case!

@Arthur Konrad I THINK MOST CONFUSE NATION-STATES WITH NATIONS, YES

THEY CANNOT THINK OUTSIDE THE PARADIGM OF GOVERNMENT

IT IS AMAZING TO SEE HOW MODERNIZED THEY HAVE BECOME

THE SOLUTION IS TO ARTICULATE THIS CLEARLY THROUGH LINK BETWEEN GENETICS, CULTURE, AND TRIBAL IDENTITY

PAN-NATIONALISM IS GOOD; RACIAL NATIONALISM IS CONFUSED

NATIONALISM WAS NEVER RACIAL, ONLY ETHNIC

THERE IS A BIT OF AN EXCEPTION FOR SIMILAR TRIBES THAT LIKE TO COEXIST, AS IN THE GERMANS AND THE U.K. (TO A DEGREE... NO IRISH!)

racial nationalism sounds even less sane than the concept of "ethno-nationalism as an ideology"

I do not know what is so difficult to comprehend about the simple principle of subsidiarity

Race is a widder and more *complex* concept than nation

Racial concept has more implications, that is, it *implies* more meanings, and quite incidentally, is *more exclusive* but also more elusive

Let me demonstrate through another example the European folly concerning other nations

The European amazement that there are "1.2 billion Chinese". "oh moofuggah, how did onen ation manage to multiply to such a number?!!?!"

Well, simply by the virtue of the fact that *many nations got included in the Chinese STATE by the virtue of its expansion*

The exact same principle led to formation of other entities, such as certain European nation-states as well. And in fact, that is no problem whatsoever in itself on the plane of mere matter-of-fact state

It becomes a problem though when this matter-of-fact state is converted into ideology *and then preached as a moral paradigm of the universe, or worse, as something GOOD IN ITSELF, or yet even worse, AS SOMETHING THAT PRODUCES GOOD RESULTS*

"watch, as a European spotted in the wild is in awe and amazement at the sight of a large state formation"

The concept of a
Nation hasn't any use
Before the 19th
Century and involved
Bringing together disparate
Ancestral dynasties which
Are called races and yet
These familial lines had
Historically very little
Opposition to unification of
Diverse regional races or
Intermixing royal blood to
Secure material possessions
Frankly, conservatism is,
unbearably,
myopic.

"NATION" MEANS TRIBE

IT SHOWS UP IN TRANSLATION LONG BEFORE THE 19TH CENTURY

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http://ethnicelebs.com/charlie-chaplin

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why?