so it's juist philosophical, thought it gets intertwined

Egoism being the belief that to do 'good' is to benefit one's self to the greatest possible degree.

was going to chat about genetic. Why I posted about breeds of dogs

Egoism is faggy

unironic egoism is ok

i mean ironic*

Utilitarianism - the belief that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few - is the best philosophy to associate with collectivism.

well

I believe that is true

the reason the communist ask for economic collectivism most of the time is because they think it would provide of their individual sake

so collectivism has been BTFOd throughout history and rhetoric

why do we still have these discussions

Don't mind the debate formate. Give people that wouldn't normally chat a chance to talk, but its not very free flowing

I guess it's just a matter of tolerating leeches demanding more gibs then

@Chewbacado We chose it because there are some conservatives who favor having some state involvement in the economy

they can leave

most communist are culturally individualist in modern time

Wing, your Jew impersonation isn't as good as @vec

they just envy the wealty

We figured it would a good enough topic for the server

cultural individualism is just a tool to dissolve the host nation's stability

And we were right, because we've debated the topic for over an hour now

@WingALingDragon some people do not make anything themselves though. I.e. richman inherits from his dad, who inherited from his dad, who inherited form his dad

cultural individualist are the most supporters of welfare

muh ebil rich inheritence

because they want the state to take care of themselves

>puppo gets called out

Any group orientated towards a goal would have a minority of highly industrialist people doing the majority of work.

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that's true

no i'm just curious

boring. debate night is not for me

oh okay

People like to say "muh ebil inheritence" but they ignore the context behind families becoming wealthy and how wealth accumulates or bleeds in a family

uhhhh

In a truly free society, money bleeds in the hands of the incompetent

no matter how much was inherited

this was the case during the Gilded Age

wealthy individualist are the porky strawman the commies use

Yeah if the guy isnt giving enough he deserves to have it stolen

Rags to riches to rags cycle