Message from @tard wrangler

Discord ID: 372962488637063168


2017-10-26 04:01:33 UTC  

no answer

2017-10-26 04:02:17 UTC  

of course he's muted

2017-10-26 04:02:21 UTC  

^

2017-10-26 04:02:22 UTC  

yup

2017-10-26 04:02:35 UTC  

darth is so fucking entertaining

2017-10-26 04:02:43 UTC  
2017-10-26 04:02:49 UTC  

my daily dose of autism

2017-10-26 04:12:10 UTC  

still no explanation for assuming uniform distribution?

2017-10-26 04:12:13 UTC  

just checking

2017-10-26 04:15:58 UTC  

"Right?" ... no

2017-10-26 04:16:09 UTC  

the issue darth is talking about right now

2017-10-26 04:16:12 UTC  

is explained here

2017-10-26 04:16:16 UTC  

and further pages on

2017-10-26 04:16:49 UTC  
2017-10-26 04:17:23 UTC  
2017-10-26 04:17:36 UTC  

okay

2017-10-26 04:18:39 UTC  

Imagine that you create a very large cage and put a group of mice into it. You let the mice live and breed in this cage freely, without disturbance. If you were to come back after five years and look into this cage, you would find mice. Five years of breeding would cause no change in the mice in that cage -- they would not evolve in any noticeable way. You could leave the cage alone for a hundred years and look in again and what you would find in the cage is mice. After several hundred years, you would look into the cage and find not 15 new species, but mice.

2017-10-26 04:18:41 UTC  

The point is that evolution in general is an extremely slow process. When two mice breed, the offspring is a mouse. When that offspring breeds, its offspring is a mouse. When that offspring breeds... And the process continues. Point mutations do not change this fact in any significant way over the short haul.

2017-10-26 04:18:55 UTC  

on page 10

2017-10-26 04:19:46 UTC  

becasue they dont need to evolve if they are properly fed, and their envrionment stayed consistent

2017-10-26 04:21:30 UTC  

DD has to assume the laws of logic *before* he comes to his worldview

2017-10-26 04:22:35 UTC  

Before the law of identity: God = God & Not God
After the law of identity: God = God

2017-10-26 04:23:07 UTC  

'm just going to point something out really quickly @Foxy something that may be useful to acknowledge in this discussion that people almost never remember to acknowledge.

the currently typical stance and assumption taken by evolutionary biologists on evolution (and actually historically the typical stance) is that there were likely multiple independant origin point of biogenesis. not single. multiple seperate ones is the assumed event. the "single common ancestor" criticisms are at least partial red herrings because they don't actually apply to the typical assumed origin event. the actually typical assumption within the field is one of multiple origin points that of course converged but do not all go back to a single ancestor. its not the standard among evolutionary biologists to assume there was one biogenesis and <@320281143763271710>🎃 should probably acknowledge that at least a bit before making some of his statements and make appropriate alterations.

@Manny no that's wrong. you don't have to acknowledge that. he's throwing out another red herring as far as the laws being required for evolution thing.

2017-10-26 04:23:07 UTC  

🚫 **This channel cannot be used for music commands.**

2017-10-26 04:23:19 UTC  

God is contingent on the laws of logic

2017-10-26 04:23:23 UTC  

lol...i didn't use a music command

2017-10-26 04:24:02 UTC  

berkeley talks about how evolution isn't always slow and steady

2017-10-26 04:24:05 UTC  

it can occur in burts

2017-10-26 04:24:08 UTC  

bursts*

2017-10-26 04:24:24 UTC  

and that it is a misconception to say it only occurs slowly and gradually

2017-10-26 04:24:52 UTC  

link that talks about pace of evolution

2017-10-26 04:25:15 UTC  

although its unlikely for a given person to get the winning lottery number someone does.

***someone*** does

2017-10-26 04:26:12 UTC  

you do not understand statistics.

does someone who can use mic happen to understand the math problems with dawkins falacies here?

2017-10-26 04:26:23 UTC  

my mics broke

2017-10-26 04:26:25 UTC  

darth does not understand?

2017-10-26 04:26:30 UTC  

correct

2017-10-26 04:27:12 UTC  

that's a red herring

2017-10-26 04:27:20 UTC  

in physics there is absolutely chance