Message from @Blood

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2017-09-28 07:27:04 UTC  

Yep

2017-09-28 07:27:15 UTC  

?

2017-09-28 07:27:25 UTC  

thus fascism naturally borrowed a lot from Marxism, socialism, and communism which had preceded it

2017-09-28 07:27:25 UTC  

were am I?

2017-09-28 07:27:39 UTC  

In a place where you will receive headpats :3

2017-09-28 07:27:46 UTC  

woop woop

2017-09-28 07:27:47 UTC  

I've been througn socialism. It sucks.

2017-09-28 07:27:57 UTC  

@// tell us your story please.

2017-09-28 07:28:00 UTC  

@// where from?

2017-09-28 07:28:05 UTC  

Russia.

2017-09-28 07:28:22 UTC  

Socialism - any form - also necessiates totalitarianism, so that the individual exists as a means to the ends of the state, always in the name of the common good. Collectivism and big government is prioritized over individualism and limited government

2017-09-28 07:28:29 UTC  

ah, youve been through a dictatorship@//

2017-09-28 07:28:32 UTC  

Well, when I've reached maturity it was already falling apart

2017-09-28 07:28:39 UTC  

Hi

2017-09-28 07:28:59 UTC  

Thanks Gorbachev

2017-09-28 07:29:09 UTC  

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 socialism does not have a standard definition, it varies depending on the country/people doing it

2017-09-28 07:29:26 UTC  

usually a response to capitalism failling a people

2017-09-28 07:29:53 UTC  

for instance in venzuela it is called " chavismo"

2017-09-28 07:30:02 UTC  

I don't recall there having been a socialist regime without an authoritarian/totalitarian government

2017-09-28 07:30:08 UTC  

It's what must be done in order for the government's centralized planning to be upheld. It's essential.

2017-09-28 07:30:18 UTC  

for instance in venzuela it is called " chavismo"

2017-09-28 07:30:36 UTC  

Gave most of you serious user and removed @Blood cuck role so if your debate ever gets memed up in main chat you can move to <#356277119862439937> 🙂

2017-09-28 07:30:45 UTC  

And some countries espouse socialsim but aren't willing to do what's necessary to enact it wholly.

2017-09-28 07:30:52 UTC  

So they're not really socialist

2017-09-28 07:31:01 UTC  

At least, the economy isn't

2017-09-28 07:31:02 UTC  

@king 😃

2017-09-28 07:31:16 UTC  
2017-09-28 07:31:18 UTC  

What *is* 'real socialism', in your view?

2017-09-28 07:31:45 UTC  

@// like i said there are no standard definitions, every country that tries it does it differently

2017-09-28 07:32:12 UTC  

but, i would say the core of it should be to remove poverty

2017-09-28 07:32:32 UTC  

and make shure humans can survive and have a foundation to grow from

2017-09-28 07:32:35 UTC  
2017-09-28 07:32:42 UTC  

I can hear you.

2017-09-28 07:33:48 UTC  

All humans? Regardless of their will to contribute their abilities to society?

2017-09-28 07:34:45 UTC  

@// well for instance in venezuela, they were happy to work for the socialist programs, coz before the corporations were treating them like shit due to no regulations, low wages too,

2017-09-28 07:35:05 UTC  

@// but yea i would think that in a country like the u.s people would be to lazy

2017-09-28 07:35:16 UTC  

hence should not be innacted

2017-09-28 07:35:16 UTC  

Venezuela isn't exactly an example of a successful country.

2017-09-28 07:35:21 UTC  

i agree

2017-09-28 07:35:44 UTC  

but is an example of people sticking to their game plan and trying to make it work

2017-09-28 07:35:52 UTC  

and having some success