Also, national socialism is still socialism

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Fascism is arguably more centrist than socialism, but Mussolini was a leftist at heart

...and not a whole lot of people actually know this. They think because Hitler invaded Russia they must be opposite ideologically but it was just the competition for power

@Fusion true, on both of those points

@Fusion brilliant

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Mussolini himself was a socialist before he developed the concept of fascism

Yep

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thus fascism naturally borrowed a lot from Marxism, socialism, and communism which had preceded it

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In a place where you will receive headpats :3

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I've been througn socialism. It sucks.

@// tell us your story please.

@// where from?

Russia.

Socialism - any form - also necessiates totalitarianism, so that the individual exists as a means to the ends of the state, always in the name of the common good. Collectivism and big government is prioritized over individualism and limited government

ah, youve been through a dictatorship@//

Well, when I've reached maturity it was already falling apart

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Thanks Gorbachev

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 socialism does not have a standard definition, it varies depending on the country/people doing it

usually a response to capitalism failling a people

for instance in venzuela it is called " chavismo"

I don't recall there having been a socialist regime without an authoritarian/totalitarian government

It's what must be done in order for the government's centralized planning to be upheld. It's essential.

for instance in venzuela it is called " chavismo"

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And some countries espouse socialsim but aren't willing to do what's necessary to enact it wholly.

So they're not really socialist

At least, the economy isn't

@king 😃

@Clonemaster™ 6.41 true

What *is* 'real socialism', in your view?

@// like i said there are no standard definitions, every country that tries it does it differently

but, i would say the core of it should be to remove poverty

and make shure humans can survive and have a foundation to grow from

@//

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