Message from @Blood

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2017-09-28 07:47:42 UTC  
2017-09-28 07:47:49 UTC  

@Blood The means of production was technically privately-owned, but this was only by a superficial level, as the state had every say in how it was run and bore the substantive powers of ownership regardless. This being the introduction of price and wage controls in 1936 as a response to the inflation caused by all the governemnt spending necessary for all its programs and subsidies. And *furthermore*, the government took outright control over what was produced, in what quantity, by what methods, and to whom it was distrubuted. This constitutes the de-facto socialization of the economic system. The government was still excersising the powers of ownership. And the alleged position of a private owner basically became that of a government pensioner.

2017-09-28 07:47:52 UTC  

why discuss politics in an echochamber. even when someone who agrees with you 91 percent of the time says something you disagree on you waste a ton of fucking time here instead of doing something usefull like stockpiling for the race war

2017-09-28 07:47:57 UTC  

don't you like the 'new deal?' its socialist just like you

2017-09-28 07:48:10 UTC  

^^^^^

2017-09-28 07:48:15 UTC  

@Blood it's what you call de-facto socialism

2017-09-28 07:48:22 UTC  

>implying there will be a race war

2017-09-28 07:48:24 UTC  

@futurestorms Yup it is. But unfortuately I have to use it for - work things. <:PepeSpecial:356316713429499905>

2017-09-28 07:48:27 UTC  

if it were not for the new deal, you would be workin 12 hours a day under shit conditions, like a slave

2017-09-28 07:48:39 UTC  

socialism has gone through a real fucky roller coaster when it comes to definitions throughout history

2017-09-28 07:48:48 UTC  

@king I think someone( @Zerek44 ) needs a cucking

2017-09-28 07:48:54 UTC  

it used to referr to terms such as taxes and crap, then it expanded to include marxism, etc

2017-09-28 07:48:54 UTC  

why

2017-09-28 07:48:56 UTC  

@฿ⱤɆӾł₮ɆɆⱤ My lady uses it for her business. It's a free website, basically.

2017-09-28 07:49:02 UTC  

<:tbhfam:356316888109940738>

2017-09-28 07:49:05 UTC  

im implying that it will most likely be a race genocide probably

2017-09-28 07:49:11 UTC  

^this is why

2017-09-28 07:49:20 UTC  

The New Deal didn't change working conditions for workers.

2017-09-28 07:49:35 UTC  

See, I just explained how the Nazis not being socialist because of 'state-run capitalism' is a myth because the government *still* fucking had control over everything

2017-09-28 07:49:38 UTC  

its almost inevitable that there will be a conflict surrounding race in the upcoming 5-15 years

2017-09-28 07:49:41 UTC  

it gave protections for workers

2017-09-28 07:49:44 UTC  

increased wages

2017-09-28 07:49:54 UTC  

if its not started by the economy, it will be started by the gov't starting shitty plans

2017-09-28 07:49:55 UTC  

And slowed the rebuilding of the American economy post-Depression.

2017-09-28 07:50:11 UTC  

The progressives in the Republican party - who ironically would be more conservative than the current 'progressives' - were the ones who drew those boundaries

2017-09-28 07:50:31 UTC  

ight peace guys

2017-09-28 07:50:31 UTC  

increasing variables like the minimum wage will not solve any problem, but will instead likely just inflate the currency even more if it's fiat

2017-09-28 07:50:32 UTC  

Oh, man. So edgy in here right now, i could shave with it.

2017-09-28 07:50:35 UTC  

@Fusion o gee, well i guess the alternative would be people working 12 hours aday and paid 25 cents an hour today

2017-09-28 07:50:52 UTC  

sweet

2017-09-28 07:51:00 UTC  

have a nice cold beer and keep it up, your changing lives out there!

2017-09-28 07:51:02 UTC  

meanwhile the corporations get rich

2017-09-28 07:51:04 UTC  

sweet

2017-09-28 07:51:04 UTC  

The irony being that 25 cents an hour would be worth about $25 an hour today

2017-09-28 07:51:11 UTC  

@Fusion yea i said today

2017-09-28 07:51:13 UTC  

lol

2017-09-28 07:51:19 UTC  

i mean 25 cents rn

2017-09-28 07:51:31 UTC  

It wouldn't be a bad thing because the dollar wouldn't have become massively devalued.

2017-09-28 07:51:34 UTC  

fiat currency is only as valuable as the value that people give it. Very very few corporations out of the total corporations are truly enjoying the 'get rich scheme' of the current economy

2017-09-28 07:51:57 UTC  

The dollar would in fact have stiill been worth so much more than it is today

2017-09-28 07:52:03 UTC  

should a wage increase be mandated, it would only just raise the cost of labor, and as such the resulting product will cost more