Message from Fusion in The Right Server #chat

2017-09-28 08:20:58 UTC  

until you go to sleep

2017-09-28 08:21:02 UTC  


2017-09-28 08:21:07 UTC  

not much longer

2017-09-28 08:21:08 UTC  

whats up

2017-09-28 08:21:41 UTC  

@Extra Crispy yea, but it would remove in theory , just anybody being able to influence gov

2017-09-28 08:22:08 UTC  

if you removed money, then the power would simply be the people responsible for exchanging resources

2017-09-28 08:22:22 UTC  

just checking

2017-09-28 08:22:39 UTC  

ironically money represnts capital, and by removing capital you just make the next best thing the next representative - the amount of resources you have

2017-09-28 08:22:55 UTC  

yea, thats why socialist movements believe the workers own the product

2017-09-28 08:23:00 UTC  

When they don't.

2017-09-28 08:23:17 UTC  

who will distribute these 'products' when there is no central group to work the logistics?

2017-09-28 08:23:21 UTC  

well it prevents anyone taking away their resources that they produce

2017-09-28 08:23:27 UTC  

What resources?

2017-09-28 08:23:32 UTC  

food, tools, etc

2017-09-28 08:23:33 UTC  

ok, i'm done for tonight. lads, keep those chins up and reach for the stars.

2017-09-28 08:23:34 UTC  

@xX NegroSaki Samurai Xx throw me back on mod i got rused by based brit srry bby

2017-09-28 08:23:36 UTC  

anything really that is essential

2017-09-28 08:23:40 UTC  

any product that they produce

2017-09-28 08:23:48 UTC  
2017-09-28 08:23:51 UTC

2017-09-28 08:23:51 UTC  

To use a common Soviet joke, they pretend to pay us, so we pretend to work.

2017-09-28 08:24:02 UTC  


2017-09-28 08:24:18 UTC  

There are no products being produced

2017-09-28 08:24:19 UTC  

my point is that no matter what you try to do, there will be a requirement of organization to as you wish to, 'redistribute' these resources over a wide span of space

2017-09-28 08:24:28 UTC  

in effect, it will be easy to control

2017-09-28 08:24:29 UTC  

So glad Quatro is here!

2017-09-28 08:24:37 UTC  
2017-09-28 08:24:39 UTC  

and if products do end up being produced, they are of drastically inferior quality to products produced in capitalist nations.

2017-09-28 08:24:49 UTC  


2017-09-28 08:24:58 UTC  

as a consequence, it would fail, eventually until either the group realizes this, or the military (invading or otherwise) takes control

2017-09-28 08:25:03 UTC  

Good to see @🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) here. I thought you were voice chat mod, though.

2017-09-28 08:25:06 UTC  

@Extra Crispy which is why it will be made out of regional representitives elected by the people of those regions

2017-09-28 08:25:11 UTC

2017-09-28 08:25:21 UTC

2017-09-28 08:25:32 UTC  

democratic socialism@Extra Crispy

2017-09-28 08:25:45 UTC  

Again, the workers *never* own the means or production or the productive assests. It's never worked out this way, and it never can. Because the workers are not supposed to be the ones managing a business like that

2017-09-28 08:25:46 UTC  

And if the regional elections result in non-socialists being elected?

2017-09-28 08:25:50 UTC  

no i deafened pef because brit rused me into believing that pef was a full on nigger so pef throw me back into gold lol

2017-09-28 08:25:51 UTC  

Then socialism stops existing.

2017-09-28 08:26:02 UTC  

otto told me the whole thing tho and i guess i agree with em,

2017-09-28 08:26:10 UTC  

it doesnt matter what these representatives say, when these people can literally pay themselves (they dont have to go to anyone to get these resources that they are now responsible for distributing) to do what they like, regardless of what the 'representatives' want