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until you go to sleep
not much longer
@Extra Crispy yea, but it would remove in theory , just anybody being able to influence gov
if you removed money, then the power would simply be the people responsible for exchanging resources
ironically money represnts capital, and by removing capital you just make the next best thing the next representative - the amount of resources you have
yea, thats why socialist movements believe the workers own the product
When they don't.
who will distribute these 'products' when there is no central group to work the logistics?
well it prevents anyone taking away their resources that they produce
food, tools, etc
ok, i'm done for tonight. lads, keep those chins up and reach for the stars.
@xX NegroSaki Samurai Xx throw me back on mod i got rused by based brit srry bby
anything really that is essential
any product that they produce
To use a common Soviet joke, they pretend to pay us, so we pretend to work.
There are no products being produced
my point is that no matter what you try to do, there will be a requirement of organization to as you wish to, 'redistribute' these resources over a wide span of space
in effect, it will be easy to control
So glad Quatro is here!
and if products do end up being produced, they are of drastically inferior quality to products produced in capitalist nations.
as a consequence, it would fail, eventually until either the group realizes this, or the military (invading or otherwise) takes control
Good to see @🚂Quatroking🚂 (🇳🇱) here. I thought you were voice chat mod, though.
@Extra Crispy which is why it will be made out of regional representitives elected by the people of those regions
Again, the workers *never* own the means or production or the productive assests. It's never worked out this way, and it never can. Because the workers are not supposed to be the ones managing a business like that
And if the regional elections result in non-socialists being elected?
no i deafened pef because brit rused me into believing that pef was a full on nigger so pef throw me back into gold lol
Then socialism stops existing.
otto told me the whole thing tho and i guess i agree with em,
it doesnt matter what these representatives say, when these people can literally pay themselves (they dont have to go to anyone to get these resources that they are now responsible for distributing) to do what they like, regardless of what the 'representatives' want