@Extra Crispy and what if those groups develop more sinister intentions than the corps?

@Extra Crispy

increasing corporate tax to the point that they have less money to afford with lobbying would be a part of that process

The ferrets keep stealing my fidget spinners.

how about.......NO LOBBYING

lmao if the NRA started becoming a real shitty group, then the people funding it would cease to fund it

lobbying only makes what would happen illegally anyway just legal for everyone

wait but you think the nra is not an example of lobbying groups? ever heard of weapons companies?

@Extra Crispy

@Composers Read my PM, please.

the NRA is a lobbying group

Term limits.
No lobbying.
End government waste

its the most successful example of a lobbying group

@futurestorms sound good

Term limits must be enacted. Drain the fucking swamp

sounds good

@Blood So, drain the swamp. Because that's basically what that is.

yea

i agree

not to mention weapons corporations earn more from the civilian market than they ever could from the military, largely because of how we americans buy individual guns, and the military buys them cheaply in bulk

@Blood Trump said this. You are ok with that?

yes

@futurestorms

the issue with corporations again falls back to corporations having more money to lobby than citizens

@Extra Crispy i mean it just sound like such an ineficient way to deal with the problem "the solution to lobbying is.....more lobbying!" how about no lobbying?

yes

and gov is just there for the people

are you telling me that the rich wouldn't lobby anyway regardless if it were legal or not?

true

that is the problem with, money = power

are you telling me that politicians wouldn't accept those free millions of dollars to 'just do this for us?'

money represents power, and removing money would just change how that power is represented

@CaptainDynamite @Juan Rico how much longer do you think you guys will stay on

until you go to sleep

uhhh

not much longer

whats up

@Extra Crispy yea, but it would remove in theory , just anybody being able to influence gov

if you removed money, then the power would simply be the people responsible for exchanging resources

just checking

ironically money represnts capital, and by removing capital you just make the next best thing the next representative - the amount of resources you have