no proof didn't happen

"famines weren't man made fam"

"famines are natural fam"

Oh shoot people are having a serious discussion

proof?

The debate is about if it was a genocide or not

@olev What was

The famine in Ukraine

how can it be genocide if it didn't happen

I'm not saying there wasn't a famine

I'm saying it was not a deliberate genocide

but there was

are you denying a genocide?

wew

It wasn't a genocide

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guys i am quite the normie, is dank good or bad?

so which was it

>be communist
>starve

>be communist
>die

Zastava did you say proof when I said there was a serious discussion in vc?

no

It's a similar situation in China

Ok good

Apparently mao just woke up one day and thought

"i'm gonna kill 70 million ni🅱🅱as"

except that's literally what he did tho

@trent hey trent

hey mate

i think it was more

It was caused by famines

But the number is inflated

https://monthlyreview.org/commentary/did-mao-really-kill-millions-in-the-great-leap-forward/

https://www.quora.com/How-did-Mao-manage-to-kill-78-million-people/answer/Godfree-Roberts

Potato Famine

"i'm gonna implement one of the most autistic political systems known to man and then starve millions of people"

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-mao

Isn’t that the Chinese leader who ruled China for decades

the commie yeah

>go to the wikipedia page for the holodomor
>relief: *foreign relief rejected by the state*