Message from @Alasdair (Joseph)
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```Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.``` - Galatians 5:4
Take that, Pharisees
Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind.
Ecclesiastes 12:13
I love the book of Ecclesiastes.
It is the duty of mankind, but it's not the means by which we are saved
As I have quoted, it's of faith, not of works, lest any man should boast
Romans 3:28: ```Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.```
Yes, but faith should be shown through the keeping of the commandments
Well I'm glad that you agree on this now
Keeping the commandments is indeed the way to show the faith within
```Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.```
James 2:18
Ecclesiastes is a great book
Aye it's beautiful
What are your opinions on the keeping of God's festivals?
"The Lord hath created medicines out of the earth; and he that is wise will not abhor them." -Ecclesiastes 38:4
Well, keeping festivals is optional
```One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.```
Romans 14:5
Because of the verse I quoted
in the Old Testament it was compulsory, but we're in the New Covenant now
I have always believed that it was the cessation of the sacrafices, not of the days themselves. Throughout the old testimate it is clear that they are to be kept as statutes forever.
forever being a very important word
Have you read the Book of Galatians?
That's where Paul speaks against Judaizers
false teachers were trying to make Christians go back under the Old Testament Law
He gives an example:
```But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years.
I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labour in vain.```
Also Colossians 2:16:
```Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:```
So you can celebrate them if you want of course
Paul explains why they shouldn't let anyone judge them on this matter:
```Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.```
that's continuing on from the last line, so basically he's saying that the Old Testament festivals prefigured the coming of Christ, for instance the feast of firstfruits represented Christ rising from the dead as the "firstfruit of them that are raised"
But did not christ himself keep those festivals?
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