Message from @Rocktomato

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2017-11-03 18:21:58 UTC  

I believe that to be saved you must at least keep his commandments

2017-11-03 18:22:09 UTC  

as that is a common theme throughout the scripture

2017-11-03 18:22:48 UTC  

Well Romans says that it's by faith, not of works

2017-11-03 18:22:52 UTC  

of course, what I was talking about was anecdotal.

2017-11-03 18:22:57 UTC  

```For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast.```

2017-11-03 18:23:04 UTC  

Eph. 2:8-9

2017-11-03 18:23:10 UTC  

Technically you're only saved by The Mercy of God

2017-11-03 18:23:17 UTC  

But you need faith to get to that

2017-11-03 18:23:25 UTC  

Works are good though

2017-11-03 18:23:33 UTC  

Works are great, we are commanded to do them

2017-11-03 18:23:38 UTC  

Ye

2017-11-03 18:23:47 UTC  

and they give us additional rewards from God, both in this life and the next

2017-11-03 18:23:49 UTC  

but not salvation

2017-11-03 18:23:52 UTC  

Truth

2017-11-03 18:24:13 UTC  

```Christ is become of no effect unto you, whosoever of you are justified by the law; ye are fallen from grace.``` - Galatians 5:4

2017-11-03 18:24:31 UTC  

Take that, Pharisees

2017-11-03 18:25:01 UTC  

Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind.

2017-11-03 18:25:08 UTC  

Ecclesiastes 12:13

2017-11-03 18:25:24 UTC  

I love the book of Ecclesiastes.

2017-11-03 18:25:37 UTC  

It is the duty of mankind, but it's not the means by which we are saved

2017-11-03 18:25:47 UTC  

As I have quoted, it's of faith, not of works, lest any man should boast

2017-11-03 18:26:16 UTC  

Romans 3:28: ```Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.```

2017-11-03 18:26:20 UTC  

Yes, but faith should be shown through the keeping of the commandments

2017-11-03 18:26:30 UTC  

Well I'm glad that you agree on this now

2017-11-03 18:26:45 UTC  

Keeping the commandments is indeed the way to show the faith within

2017-11-03 18:27:06 UTC  

```Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.```

2017-11-03 18:27:07 UTC  

James 2:18

2017-11-03 18:28:07 UTC  

Ecclesiastes is a great book

2017-11-03 18:28:29 UTC  

Aye it's beautiful

2017-11-03 18:29:30 UTC  

What are your opinions on the keeping of God's festivals?

2017-11-03 18:30:01 UTC  

"The Lord hath created medicines out of the earth; and he that is wise will not abhor them." -Ecclesiastes 38:4

2017-11-03 18:30:46 UTC  

Well, keeping festivals is optional

2017-11-03 18:31:02 UTC  

```One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.```

2017-11-03 18:31:06 UTC  

Romans 14:5

2017-11-03 18:31:07 UTC  

How so?

2017-11-03 18:31:13 UTC  

Because of the verse I quoted

2017-11-03 18:31:23 UTC  

in the Old Testament it was compulsory, but we're in the New Covenant now

2017-11-03 18:32:23 UTC  

I have always believed that it was the cessation of the sacrafices, not of the days themselves. Throughout the old testimate it is clear that they are to be kept as statutes forever.

2017-11-03 18:32:34 UTC  

forever being a very important word

2017-11-03 18:32:38 UTC  

Have you read the Book of Galatians?

2017-11-03 18:32:44 UTC  

That's where Paul speaks against Judaizers