Message from @Noxar

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2018-09-06 04:52:42 UTC  

recommended to all

2018-09-06 05:06:28 UTC  

here's another recommended book

2018-09-06 05:06:37 UTC  

not free unfortunately

2018-09-06 05:06:42 UTC  

the rest of them are though

2018-09-06 07:01:20 UTC  

Jesus christ fuck off with this false propaganda

2018-09-06 10:52:59 UTC  

The final solution by sabaton should go here

2018-09-06 10:53:04 UTC  

Shows Hitler's evil

2018-09-06 14:17:06 UTC  

I thought this was serious chat not edgy chat smh

2018-09-06 14:19:47 UTC  

This is serious, indeed

2018-09-06 14:19:54 UTC  

Unfortunately @agag has access here

2018-09-06 14:19:57 UTC  

Idk why tbh

2018-09-06 14:20:07 UTC  

here's a book that talks about actual false propaganda if you're interested

2018-09-06 14:20:16 UTC  

nice fake

2018-09-06 14:20:55 UTC  

talks about the Hitler myth in the Third Reich

2018-09-06 14:21:13 UTC  

*it's fake because I don't like it*

2018-09-06 14:29:52 UTC  

I dont know much about Hitler or history very well but I wouldnt doubt it if Hitler is misrepresented to made look like the devil.

People followed him and elected him chancellor for a reason not just because the German people were sadistic and hated everyone.

However, I think people really only over glorify him because of the stigma his name hold not because of his actual individual accomplishments, policy or integrity as a person.

2018-09-06 14:31:14 UTC  

by 1936 his popularity had declined to the point where they no longer got enough spontaneous crowds and Speer had to organize people who would cheer for him

2018-09-06 14:31:27 UTC  

lol what

2018-09-06 14:31:27 UTC  

Kershaw talks about this stuff in that last link I sent

2018-09-06 14:32:06 UTC  

I couldn't find that book for free but if you're genuinely interested in the subject consider getting it

2018-09-06 14:32:22 UTC  

Kershaw is one of the most respected people on this topic

2018-09-06 14:33:17 UTC  

I like learning about history. It is very difficult finding a source that isn't skewing data or deliberately omitting key information.

2018-09-06 14:35:03 UTC  

History is Written by the victors, the only "respectable" ones will be those peddling the official narrative

2018-09-06 14:35:15 UTC  

Thats a shame.

2018-09-06 14:35:36 UTC  

For all we know, George Washington could have been a Native American.

2018-09-06 14:36:15 UTC  

David Irving was also a "respectable" historian, but once he even questioned the matter of gas chambers and concentration camps, he was instantly slandered and ridiculed

2018-09-06 14:36:35 UTC  

I think I saw that in the Greatest Story Never Told.

2018-09-06 14:37:04 UTC  

Great documentary but you must watch it in parts.

2018-09-06 14:37:17 UTC  

I really don't think so and I don't see a reason why he would lie about his ethnicity

2018-09-06 14:40:15 UTC  

Irving is ridiculed because he's a hack, for example he uses a document from Himmler saying a transport of 1000 German Jews east is not to be liquidated as proof Hitler didn't want to kill the Jews. In reality, this group was being transported to populate a ghetto previously populated by native jews who had been liquidated, and that German Jewish transport was liquidated in the end. Can you see how Irving misrepresented, or at best misinterpreted, that evidence, or do I need to spell it out for you?

2018-09-06 14:50:55 UTC  

1936 saw an election in nazi Germany that again (obviously) Hitler received overwhelming support in. And just anecdotally my grandfather was a soldier in nazi Germany and I know according to him he had overwhelming support until the war started and even during it.

2018-09-06 14:52:00 UTC  

Plus 36 saw one of the biggest Nuremberg rallies

2018-09-06 14:54:24 UTC  

The average citizen didnt start turning on Hitler until the war actually started

2018-09-06 14:55:53 UTC  

@Fsypro Support for NSDAP kept rising and rising, not going down

2018-09-06 14:56:08 UTC  

and I bet it peaked after conquering France and Poland

2018-09-06 14:56:20 UTC  

Germans didnt believe they could do it

2018-09-06 18:46:53 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/486385308951379968/487332884437270536/3debbda549d20cfd4e12681e453395b6.png

2018-09-06 18:52:10 UTC  

that's from Kershaw