Message from @Ideology

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2018-09-18 00:13:27 UTC  

okay

2018-09-18 00:15:06 UTC  

Men and Women are equal in regards to worth. Biologically-speaking they are different, and that will cause them to act differently, experience different things, and ect. The most we should do as a society is focus on the "individual", not whether they are male and female. Because when you attempt to "join a group" like that, it destroys the experiences of those you're attempting to join. No longer is it females being harassed, it's females AND transgender males, and that takes away from the females who had to go through it alone

2018-09-18 00:15:09 UTC  

Well I guess I'll take issue with the idea that you must fit a group perfectly to bit part of the group. The experience of a group as broad as woman varies amongst different races classes and etc. You'd have to deconstruct the meaning of the idea of women and tell me what specifcally about the trans woman experiences disqualifies them from this group.

2018-09-18 00:15:24 UTC  

ESPECIALLY since the man CHOSE to be defined as a "woman"

2018-09-18 00:15:52 UTC  

If I as a Latino tried to relate to the black population and call myself "black", that would be an insult to them

2018-09-18 00:16:03 UTC  

Yes but you are a minority population

2018-09-18 00:16:06 UTC  

Because my experiences have no correlation to what they endure

2018-09-18 00:16:14 UTC  

and your experiences are closer to there's than the average white persons

2018-09-18 00:16:21 UTC  

you can have some degree of solidarity with any woman

2018-09-18 00:16:32 UTC  

But it's not the same

2018-09-18 00:16:37 UTC  

black people stay with black people

2018-09-18 00:16:42 UTC  

because from the moment they were born

2018-09-18 00:16:44 UTC  

men are a minority in the USA

2018-09-18 00:16:45 UTC  

Also we're erecting the categories artificlly in the first place

2018-09-18 00:16:47 UTC  

and as they were raised

2018-09-18 00:16:57 UTC  

they had to think through a certain mindset

2018-09-18 00:17:03 UTC  

and here comes Latino Bandito

2018-09-18 00:17:05 UTC  

Saying he's black

2018-09-18 00:17:10 UTC  

that he understands blacks

2018-09-18 00:17:12 UTC  

Again your acting like the average experience of black man is universal

2018-09-18 00:17:22 UTC  

I'm speaking in US terms

2018-09-18 00:17:25 UTC  

They'll all be different for a number of factors

2018-09-18 00:17:32 UTC  

But there is an average

2018-09-18 00:17:35 UTC  

there is always an average

2018-09-18 00:17:46 UTC  

The majority of the Black Lives Matter walks are from out of the states

2018-09-18 00:17:49 UTC  

All around the US

2018-09-18 00:17:56 UTC  

I had an african freind in high school and he'd always hang around us indian kids becayse he identifed with ys more

2018-09-18 00:17:59 UTC  

Even though they go through different things in different states

2018-09-18 00:18:03 UTC  

they still go to the same event

2018-09-18 00:18:09 UTC  

There is always an average

2018-09-18 00:18:11 UTC  

I mean it's a universal experience

2018-09-18 00:18:23 UTC  

but not all experiences are universal

2018-09-18 00:18:37 UTC  

Averages are though

2018-09-18 00:18:41 UTC  

Yes but now we're defining categories with arbitrary cut offs

2018-09-18 00:18:53 UTC  

and you can talk about averages but trans people are a very small minority

2018-09-18 00:18:56 UTC  

If I had to place a bet on how any random black person in the whole earth would be

2018-09-18 00:19:03 UTC  

even less identify as female

2018-09-18 00:19:09 UTC  

as a woman i mean sorry

2018-09-18 00:19:28 UTC  

I'd be safer to say in poverty and have committed multiple felonies

2018-09-18 00:19:30 UTC  

It would vary greatly on the population you find them in

2018-09-18 00:19:34 UTC  

Through literal statistics