So why go ahead

and if women and men felt like they could do as they please we'd have no issue

@Somedudewithaname Alright let's debate. My position is this: societal cost of accepting trannies destroys the stability in the long term of families and of the nation by way of shifting the acceptable range of ideas on sexuality and gender identity. Therefore trannies should be jailed or sent to a loony bin to be studied for a potential cure to their mental problem.

but some men find they identify as women

and.

oh go

god

There is no reason to identify as woman if not a woman

Really isn't much more to it than that. I don't care about their individual rights, the collective interest of the race/nation is more important.

It doesn't help you at all

It only hurts people

It could be you feel like you idenitfy more with the social identity of a woman

Even if ALL of society

ALL

Openly accepted you

How does it hut people?

If the female groups accepted you and ect

and some do btw

When you go to the doctor or physician

Or a therapist

They'll bring it up yes

They will HAVE to diagnose you as your biological sex

they're experience as a woman will be different from other woman

And that gives a bullet in the head

but these categroies are arbitrary at best and what one choses to identify as is not really that big of an issue

if it helps them, if it's what they want to do, why stop them?

Gender is a social construct at best.

And some men do posses feminized brains.

But if it's a social consturct

*construct

Everyone has to adhere to it

All of society

So unless you make it illegal

There will be people openly able to be against them for any personal reason

Forget religion

Okay, but what about men with feminizied brains?

Or vice versa/

They can follow the tasks and careers their minds find suitable

Why can't they identify as a woman?

Why do they need to?

I'm sorry who has there mike on?