Message from Shitford in The Right Server #serious


2018-09-22 04:29:06 UTC  

Are we having a debate about if freud was a pedophile?

2018-09-22 04:29:14 UTC  

Yes, yes we are.

2018-09-22 04:29:17 UTC  

lol

2018-09-22 04:29:25 UTC  

Geez that's a question

2018-09-22 04:29:40 UTC  

Probs but he did found modern psychology

2018-09-22 04:30:10 UTC  

Then the neofreudians came around

2018-09-22 04:30:38 UTC  

Which shifted to behavioral theory I think?

2018-09-22 04:31:24 UTC  

Probably.

2018-09-22 04:31:49 UTC  

oh yea conditioning

2018-09-22 04:32:11 UTC  

Classical and operant conditioning were behaviorism

2018-09-22 04:32:54 UTC  

Which was tested with animals

2018-09-22 04:33:04 UTC  

I thought it was Skinner who started behaviorism wasn't it?

2018-09-22 04:33:24 UTC  

Was he a neofreudian?

2018-09-22 04:35:53 UTC  

Turns out he wasn't one

2018-09-22 04:36:25 UTC  

He came up with the conditioning theory

2018-09-22 04:37:02 UTC  

Watson came up with behaviorism

2018-09-22 04:38:03 UTC  

Sorry to shift topics quickly, however, the previous points lead me to yet another disturbing corner of psuedoscience-in-the-name-of-promoting-degeneracy:

John Money. The bizarre man that castrated a kid and made him get fucked by his sibling (while both kids were toddlers) just to prove gender wasn't aligned with sex.

2018-09-22 04:38:55 UTC  

How the fuck did he manage to go from predator-with-a-god-complex to being rated highly credible by most of Academia?

2018-09-22 04:39:19 UTC  

Was that before ethics were a thing

2018-09-22 04:39:33 UTC  

Sounds awfully extreme

2018-09-22 04:39:47 UTC  

Born in 1921

2018-09-22 04:39:59 UTC  

Tranny book published in 1969

2018-09-22 04:40:08 UTC  

Gender was a made up term in the 50s I think

2018-09-22 04:40:17 UTC  

the David Reimer stuff is still very controversial

2018-09-22 04:40:50 UTC  

Really? I could've sworn it's cited almost everywhere by trannies and cis-allies

2018-09-22 04:41:34 UTC  

Oh it was a made up term in the 50s to identify with "one's self"

2018-09-22 04:42:25 UTC  

NO it's not.

2018-09-22 04:42:37 UTC  

Most transgenders don't site MOney.

2018-09-22 04:42:52 UTC  

They'd site judith butler or Serano and the brain chemistry differences in transgenders

2018-09-22 04:42:59 UTC  

which is pretty hard to argue agianst

2018-09-22 04:43:06 UTC  

It is a false distinction between one's identity and biological sex though

2018-09-22 04:43:24 UTC  

Dressing as a girl doesn't make you a girl

2018-09-22 04:43:35 UTC  

No but having the brain chemistry of a female might.

2018-09-22 04:43:51 UTC  

I doubt that is the main drive

2018-09-22 04:44:02 UTC  

Grey vs black matter precentanges in a transgender persons brain are aligned with the sex they idenitfy with

2018-09-22 04:44:15 UTC  

so whether or to what extent gender is a social construct isn't really the issue

2018-09-22 04:44:42 UTC  

But yeah MOney was a monster

2018-09-22 04:44:48 UTC  

No arguments from me on that

2018-09-22 04:45:13 UTC  

Well then the conclusion is that it's a biochemical problem

2018-09-22 04:45:41 UTC  

Or a social problem depending how you look at it.

2018-09-22 04:45:48 UTC  

@Shitford no even transgender advocates don't like him