Message from @Hadou Divinity Mercurius
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Wasn't there not just penis *envy*, but also penis *aggression* and penis *compensation*?
(I haven't studied Freud as hard as I probably should've before making these statements. I'm assuming phallic aggression is sexual frustration and/or the desire to rape and that phallic compensation is self-explanatory.)
He used penis envy to describe woman's behavior
I don't think he was a pervert though
Just by the title, the idea of "penis envy" seems like a very accurate description of the main principle behind female homosexuality as well as bullshit such as "female-to-male transgenderism".
And phallic aggression is about puberty yes
Where the desire to reproduce comes into mind which makes you feel weird at first
causing frustration
Would it be bad if the beginning of puberty in a developing male DIDN'T involve being confused shitless?
I think he said that it causes you to be confused shitless
Because you have yet to adapt to it
Like the first time you start getting erections
Mhm, so does that mean, according to Freud, not experiencing angst in your early teen years means you failed to go through puberty? Is it problematic if somebody *didn't* experience disturbance upon achieving their first erection?
Probably how he would interpret that
That was his style
To say because of x stage
He is called the father of psychology because of his observations with patients and relating it to a specific cause which modern psychologists do today but with a better understanding
I already knew that. The reason I started this discussion was because I was suspecting Freud was a diddler. (or at least a closeted diddler)
In other words his views are a stepping stone
Well being a surgeon doesn't mean you like cutting people up lol
That makes sense, yet I still can't wrap my head around why he couldn't come up with ANY names for the early-life urges of consumption, expulsion & excitement that didn't involve cocks at all.
Well there were biblical words for that
But that was not the point of his studies
Are we having a debate about if freud was a pedophile?
Yes, yes we are.
lol
Geez that's a question
Probs but he did found modern psychology
Then the neofreudians came around
Which shifted to behavioral theory I think?
Probably.
oh yea conditioning
Classical and operant conditioning were behaviorism
Which was tested with animals
I thought it was Skinner who started behaviorism wasn't it?
Was he a neofreudian?
Turns out he wasn't one
He came up with the conditioning theory
Watson came up with behaviorism
Sorry to shift topics quickly, however, the previous points lead me to yet another disturbing corner of psuedoscience-in-the-name-of-promoting-degeneracy:
John Money. The bizarre man that castrated a kid and made him get fucked by his sibling (while both kids were toddlers) just to prove gender wasn't aligned with sex.