Message from @Shitford

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2018-09-22 04:15:00 UTC  

But it is what he thought

2018-09-22 04:15:58 UTC  

About the sexual parts I would have to dig up my memory

2018-09-22 04:16:14 UTC  

I think the phallic stage was penis envy

2018-09-22 04:17:20 UTC  

Wasn't there not just penis *envy*, but also penis *aggression* and penis *compensation*?

2018-09-22 04:18:09 UTC  

(I haven't studied Freud as hard as I probably should've before making these statements. I'm assuming phallic aggression is sexual frustration and/or the desire to rape and that phallic compensation is self-explanatory.)

2018-09-22 04:18:44 UTC  

He used penis envy to describe woman's behavior

2018-09-22 04:18:54 UTC  

I don't think he was a pervert though

2018-09-22 04:19:52 UTC  

Just by the title, the idea of "penis envy" seems like a very accurate description of the main principle behind female homosexuality as well as bullshit such as "female-to-male transgenderism".

2018-09-22 04:20:00 UTC  

And phallic aggression is about puberty yes

2018-09-22 04:20:52 UTC  

Where the desire to reproduce comes into mind which makes you feel weird at first

2018-09-22 04:21:22 UTC  

causing frustration

2018-09-22 04:22:00 UTC  

Would it be bad if the beginning of puberty in a developing male DIDN'T involve being confused shitless?

2018-09-22 04:22:25 UTC  

I think he said that it causes you to be confused shitless

2018-09-22 04:22:42 UTC  

Because you have yet to adapt to it

2018-09-22 04:23:07 UTC  

Like the first time you start getting erections

2018-09-22 04:24:01 UTC  

Mhm, so does that mean, according to Freud, not experiencing angst in your early teen years means you failed to go through puberty? Is it problematic if somebody *didn't* experience disturbance upon achieving their first erection?

2018-09-22 04:24:25 UTC  

Probably how he would interpret that

2018-09-22 04:24:41 UTC  

That was his style

2018-09-22 04:24:51 UTC  

To say because of x stage

2018-09-22 04:25:55 UTC  

He is called the father of psychology because of his observations with patients and relating it to a specific cause which modern psychologists do today but with a better understanding

2018-09-22 04:26:34 UTC  

I already knew that. The reason I started this discussion was because I was suspecting Freud was a diddler. (or at least a closeted diddler)

2018-09-22 04:26:39 UTC  

In other words his views are a stepping stone

2018-09-22 04:27:08 UTC  

Well being a surgeon doesn't mean you like cutting people up lol

2018-09-22 04:27:59 UTC  

he did out of research not pleasure is what I am saying

2018-09-22 04:28:15 UTC  

That makes sense, yet I still can't wrap my head around why he couldn't come up with ANY names for the early-life urges of consumption, expulsion & excitement that didn't involve cocks at all.

2018-09-22 04:28:37 UTC  

Well there were biblical words for that

2018-09-22 04:29:06 UTC  

But that was not the point of his studies

2018-09-22 04:29:06 UTC  

Are we having a debate about if freud was a pedophile?

2018-09-22 04:29:14 UTC  

Yes, yes we are.

2018-09-22 04:29:17 UTC  

lol

2018-09-22 04:29:25 UTC  

Geez that's a question

2018-09-22 04:29:40 UTC  

Probs but he did found modern psychology

2018-09-22 04:30:10 UTC  

Then the neofreudians came around

2018-09-22 04:30:38 UTC  

Which shifted to behavioral theory I think?

2018-09-22 04:31:24 UTC  

Probably.

2018-09-22 04:31:49 UTC  

oh yea conditioning

2018-09-22 04:32:11 UTC  

Classical and operant conditioning were behaviorism

2018-09-22 04:32:54 UTC  

Which was tested with animals

2018-09-22 04:33:04 UTC  

I thought it was Skinner who started behaviorism wasn't it?

2018-09-22 04:33:24 UTC  

Was he a neofreudian?

2018-09-22 04:35:53 UTC  

Turns out he wasn't one