Message from @Hadou Divinity Mercurius

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2018-09-22 04:05:23 UTC  

Where one related to a specific part of the body

2018-09-22 04:05:37 UTC  

Oral stage, phallic stage,etc.

2018-09-22 04:06:09 UTC  

Not just that, I'm talking about EVERY piece of his work relating to how, according to him, the entire human brain is driven purely by the desire for sexual pleasure, which INCLUDES his "Stages Of Life" idea.

2018-09-22 04:06:34 UTC  

And people's mothers

2018-09-22 04:07:32 UTC  

He had quite the fixation on people's mothers being the reason for their psychological development

2018-09-22 04:07:57 UTC  

He really liked some motherfuckers, that's for sure.

2018-09-22 04:08:31 UTC  

Back on topic, it's fucking sick.

2018-09-22 04:08:43 UTC  

Well he was right about the oedipus complex

2018-09-22 04:09:29 UTC  

Yes, but of all the things to name them, why would he make them all pertain to sexual acts?

2018-09-22 04:09:40 UTC  

Especially if it has to do with CHILDREN DEVELOPING?

2018-09-22 04:11:02 UTC  

He saw the body as a pretty damn important part of psychology and the idea of cognition wasn't really prevalent at his time.

2018-09-22 04:11:48 UTC  

He was physical with his ideas instead of metaphysical like the idea of cognition today

2018-09-22 04:12:48 UTC  

That's understandable, but why wouldn't he name them as `Consumption`, `Expulsion`, and `Desire`?

2018-09-22 04:13:32 UTC  

The oral stage was consumption basically

2018-09-22 04:13:45 UTC  

That's what I meant.

2018-09-22 04:14:24 UTC  

It makes no sense to give a deeply sexual name to non-sexual events unless you explicitly have a fetish for those events.

2018-09-22 04:14:36 UTC  

Again he identified consumption with insatiability as a child

2018-09-22 04:14:53 UTC  

Not that it's correct

2018-09-22 04:15:00 UTC  

But it is what he thought

2018-09-22 04:15:58 UTC  

About the sexual parts I would have to dig up my memory

2018-09-22 04:16:14 UTC  

I think the phallic stage was penis envy

2018-09-22 04:17:20 UTC  

Wasn't there not just penis *envy*, but also penis *aggression* and penis *compensation*?

2018-09-22 04:18:09 UTC  

(I haven't studied Freud as hard as I probably should've before making these statements. I'm assuming phallic aggression is sexual frustration and/or the desire to rape and that phallic compensation is self-explanatory.)

2018-09-22 04:18:44 UTC  

He used penis envy to describe woman's behavior

2018-09-22 04:18:54 UTC  

I don't think he was a pervert though

2018-09-22 04:19:52 UTC  

Just by the title, the idea of "penis envy" seems like a very accurate description of the main principle behind female homosexuality as well as bullshit such as "female-to-male transgenderism".

2018-09-22 04:20:00 UTC  

And phallic aggression is about puberty yes

2018-09-22 04:20:52 UTC  

Where the desire to reproduce comes into mind which makes you feel weird at first

2018-09-22 04:21:22 UTC  

causing frustration

2018-09-22 04:22:00 UTC  

Would it be bad if the beginning of puberty in a developing male DIDN'T involve being confused shitless?

2018-09-22 04:22:25 UTC  

I think he said that it causes you to be confused shitless

2018-09-22 04:22:42 UTC  

Because you have yet to adapt to it

2018-09-22 04:23:07 UTC  

Like the first time you start getting erections

2018-09-22 04:24:01 UTC  

Mhm, so does that mean, according to Freud, not experiencing angst in your early teen years means you failed to go through puberty? Is it problematic if somebody *didn't* experience disturbance upon achieving their first erection?

2018-09-22 04:24:25 UTC  

Probably how he would interpret that

2018-09-22 04:24:41 UTC  

That was his style

2018-09-22 04:24:51 UTC  

To say because of x stage

2018-09-22 04:25:55 UTC  

He is called the father of psychology because of his observations with patients and relating it to a specific cause which modern psychologists do today but with a better understanding

2018-09-22 04:26:34 UTC  

I already knew that. The reason I started this discussion was because I was suspecting Freud was a diddler. (or at least a closeted diddler)

2018-09-22 04:26:39 UTC  

In other words his views are a stepping stone

2018-09-22 04:27:08 UTC  

Well being a surgeon doesn't mean you like cutting people up lol