Message from @agag
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where have you been?
this is what we've seen in the past
but long-term they'll assimilate
Indeed
Would you find any problem with any european country to say that, for example "Poland is for Polish people", or "France is for French people". What is wrong with that
Hell Andrew Carnegie.
Ugh well I'm very mixed on this////
@Mord depends on your definition of polish and French
Well partly wat out boarding uniform says
@Somedudewithaname there are exceptions, and Scotland and America aren't all that distant culturally
There are tons of french citizens who are african
Polish and French people who have roots dated back at least 100 years @Outboarduniform
but if you look at Irish-Americans, they certainly struggled with assimilation in the beginning
the same with Italians
France has a ton of african citizens from the colonial era
who consider themselves french
But they are not French @Somedudewithaname
and played for the french team
they think they are.
@Mord what makes someone who’s family has been in Poland for 30 years any less deserving of living in Poland than the ones who have been there for 100 years
l used it as an example, l don't want to argue semantics on it
Well I don't mean to gang up on you
And if you feel overwhelmed lmk lol
I think that the example itself is flawed though
So far you've shown common identiy to be what unifies a nation
what's a French person? Before the French government essentially committed linguicide there were many different minority groups in France
but you haven't proven where race matters in all this
The point is, what is wrong with a nation wanting to keep to themselves and unite their people as one culture, ethnicity, identity, religion if any, etc..
Occitans, Normans, Basques, Bretons, etc.
Welly your idenity is an arbitrary cut off
the same in Germany
Cause different fench people will have different idenitits
I don't see what the overall unifier even is
Because ethnicity does not determine culture, identity, and religion if said person has assimilated into that society
would you not see identity politics between a Saxon and a Bavarian or a Norman and an Occitan
I'm not sure what the french socalist and the right wingerswould have in common
Culture, race, background, etc.. @Somedudewithaname
BUt dude
Okay im an american fro ma generally liberal area