Message from @Mord
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And there is no argument calling for the importation of people into Japan
I mean we did it just fine.
@Somedudewithaname let me ask you something, and l want you to answer it honestly.
Sure
civnat doesn't work well because people with their own nationalism will experience culture shock in a different country unless they adapt
First generation immigrants will never truly integrate
Their children, however, will
Lol yes they do
@Hadou Divinity Mercurius of course
where have you been?
this is what we've seen in the past
but long-term they'll assimilate
Indeed
Would you find any problem with any european country to say that, for example "Poland is for Polish people", or "France is for French people". What is wrong with that
Hell Andrew Carnegie.
Ugh well I'm very mixed on this////
@Mord depends on your definition of polish and French
Well partly wat out boarding uniform says
@Somedudewithaname there are exceptions, and Scotland and America aren't all that distant culturally
There are tons of french citizens who are african
but if you look at Irish-Americans, they certainly struggled with assimilation in the beginning
the same with Italians
France has a ton of african citizens from the colonial era
who consider themselves french
But they are not French @Somedudewithaname
and played for the french team
they think they are.
would Polish Jews who've been there longer than 100 years be Polish
@Mord what makes someone who’s family has been in Poland for 30 years any less deserving of living in Poland than the ones who have been there for 100 years
l used it as an example, l don't want to argue semantics on it
Well I don't mean to gang up on you
And if you feel overwhelmed lmk lol
I think that the example itself is flawed though
So far you've shown common identiy to be what unifies a nation
what's a French person? Before the French government essentially committed linguicide there were many different minority groups in France
but you haven't proven where race matters in all this
The point is, what is wrong with a nation wanting to keep to themselves and unite their people as one culture, ethnicity, identity, religion if any, etc..
Occitans, Normans, Basques, Bretons, etc.
Welly your idenity is an arbitrary cut off