Message from @EzraOldenstein

Discord ID: 492928117229223957


2018-09-22 05:16:50 UTC  

why do you think God is trash

2018-09-22 05:16:56 UTC  

God isnt "trash" there is nothing to argue

2018-09-22 05:17:02 UTC  

You being edgy and faggoty is an argument

2018-09-22 05:17:05 UTC  

Lol okay we should set some actual debate topics

2018-09-22 05:17:16 UTC  

DO you think states should be organized around religion?

2018-09-22 05:17:27 UTC  

Do you think god is the locus of all morality?

2018-09-22 05:17:35 UTC  

DO you think religion is a net benefit to society?

2018-09-22 05:17:56 UTC  

I was just being edgy lol but nah I want to actually debate

2018-09-22 05:18:35 UTC  

The last 2 questions are pretty obvious

2018-09-22 05:18:37 UTC  

Hello

2018-09-22 05:18:42 UTC  

Oh shit here we go

2018-09-22 05:18:55 UTC  

MOrb why is an ethno shit benefical to society?

2018-09-22 05:18:58 UTC  

Why do you want one?

2018-09-22 05:18:59 UTC  

@Mord they needed your white boy autism

2018-09-22 05:19:04 UTC  

How does it even benefit you?

2018-09-22 05:19:21 UTC  

You identify as a theocrat ezra

2018-09-22 05:19:29 UTC  

You mean why do we need ethnic nationalism?

2018-09-22 05:19:30 UTC  

your in no position to judge anyones opinion.

2018-09-22 05:19:38 UTC  

Sure lets go with that/

2018-09-22 05:20:13 UTC  

@Somedudewithaname the fuck are you talking about

2018-09-22 05:20:21 UTC  

mord is white and autistic
i am italian and autistic

2018-09-22 05:20:26 UTC  

im not judging anybody

2018-09-22 05:20:34 UTC  

Sigh.

2018-09-22 05:20:35 UTC  

I am epic and autistic

2018-09-22 05:20:46 UTC  

I'm to leftist to do this shit lol

2018-09-22 05:21:42 UTC  

Ethnic nationalism serves as a framework for being able to have a common culture, background, and in some cases experiences. lt connects those people in a nation. People tend to naturally be collective, and ethnic nationalism grows on that.

2018-09-22 05:22:12 UTC  

Okay but what makes you think a common idenity needs to rest on the basis of race?

2018-09-22 05:22:23 UTC  

WHy couldn't some other idenity serve the same function?

2018-09-22 05:22:26 UTC  

Civic nationalism does not work because you will inevitably have identity politics where people will vote for policies that benefit them.

2018-09-22 05:22:32 UTC  

And why do we even need to value collectives?

2018-09-22 05:22:47 UTC  

Isn't the nature of polotics to vote in self intrest?

2018-09-22 05:22:53 UTC  

Unless your agianst democracy?

2018-09-22 05:23:03 UTC  

Because it creates a homogenous nation of one culture and one nation

2018-09-22 05:23:13 UTC  

Why does that matter?

2018-09-22 05:23:49 UTC  

Precisely, the nature of politics is to vote in self interest as well as those you share common values, culture, backgrounds, and race as you.

2018-09-22 05:24:31 UTC  

I can say it's possible to vote with those who share common values, but wouldn't it be of most benefit to have a sysem that allows most people into yuor collective?

2018-09-22 05:24:49 UTC  

THat way you have more resources pooled together?

2018-09-22 05:25:19 UTC  

Not necessarily, that is basically civic nationalism.

2018-09-22 05:25:29 UTC  

Why value nationalism over globalism?

2018-09-22 05:25:34 UTC  

How would immigrants from a different background support a common background

2018-09-22 05:25:38 UTC  

If Civic Nationalism does not work why has there not been a modern western ethnostate ? @Mord