Message from @EzraOldenstein

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2018-09-22 06:26:56 UTC  

or even close to one.

2018-09-22 06:29:22 UTC  

@Mord you said "lt was not, they did not permit filthy Africans to roam the streets and rape people" after Outboard said "Rome was literally civnat as well"

2018-09-22 06:29:25 UTC  

I figured you were responding to him

2018-09-22 06:54:20 UTC  

@EzraOldenstein 1. Whatever begins to exist has a cause.
2. The universe began to exist.
3. Therefore the universe has a cause.
4. There cannot be an infinite regress of causes.
5. There cannot be a circular causation.
6. Therefore the universe was caused (either directly or indirectly) by an uncaused cause (i.e that had no beginning).
7. The uncaused cause must transcend space and time, and be sentient.
8. But to say a sentient being that transcends space and time brought the universe into existence, is to say that God exists.
9. Therefore God exists. @Somedudewithaname

2018-09-22 06:54:35 UTC  

lets do this in here so I can actually think and not be swarmed.

2018-09-22 06:54:52 UTC  

Why can't the universe have an infinte regress?

2018-09-22 06:55:09 UTC  

Also your advocating for a belief that breaks your own principle

2018-09-22 06:55:36 UTC  

if god is beyond the scope of causality, the law of causality does not always apply, so why would it apply to this universe?

2018-09-22 06:55:43 UTC  

Because the universe has a cause, the universe has a beginning

2018-09-22 06:55:49 UTC  

Also infinite regress models are floated around in physics

2018-09-22 06:55:55 UTC  

There isnt anything contradictory, you literally cannot read

2018-09-22 06:55:58 UTC  

its the expansion contraction model

2018-09-22 06:56:02 UTC  

No...

2018-09-22 06:57:17 UTC  

Also you haven't shown infinite regress to be true.

2018-09-22 06:59:47 UTC  

"law of causality does not always apply"

2018-09-22 07:00:00 UTC  

It does not apply to god

2018-09-22 07:00:04 UTC  

otherwise he needs a creator

2018-09-22 07:00:08 UTC  

and it dosn't apply to him

2018-09-22 07:00:14 UTC  

why would we hold causality binding?

2018-09-22 07:00:15 UTC  

God is eternal

2018-09-22 07:00:25 UTC  

@Somedudewithaname you are unbelievably dense

2018-09-22 07:00:25 UTC  

Universe can be too on certian models.

2018-09-22 07:00:30 UTC  

The universe is the creation

2018-09-22 07:00:43 UTC  

NO ezra your just an example of the dunnnig-kruger effect

2018-09-22 07:00:44 UTC  

God does not exist solely within the confines of our universe, therefore he is not bound by its rules

2018-09-22 07:00:53 UTC  

You are genuinely retarded

2018-09-22 07:01:01 UTC  

causality = cause and effect of space and time

2018-09-22 07:01:03 UTC  

I am certian I have more education than you.

2018-09-22 07:01:10 UTC  

This universe has those

2018-09-22 07:01:19 UTC  

Clearly

2018-09-22 07:01:34 UTC  

hey man whats with this adhom

2018-09-22 07:01:35 UTC  

Nothing in our world is acausal

2018-09-22 07:01:40 UTC  

that is fictitious

2018-09-22 07:01:50 UTC  

why address my character instead of the issue at hand???

2018-09-22 07:01:53 UTC  

thats like

2018-09-22 07:01:56 UTC  

You know your right

2018-09-22 07:01:57 UTC  

a logical fallacy man

2018-09-22 07:01:57 UTC  

my b

2018-09-22 07:02:04 UTC  

i've been trying to be better about it

2018-09-22 07:02:08 UTC  

you triggered me and i am sorry

2018-09-22 07:02:22 UTC  

but yeah beggining of the universe model isn't the only one out there