Message from @agag

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2018-09-23 18:42:53 UTC  

Are you saying the bank bailout was good and justified?

2018-09-23 18:42:57 UTC  

Because you just did say that

2018-09-23 18:43:01 UTC  

what about all those who were affected by the Holodomor

2018-09-23 18:43:07 UTC  

or any other genocide

2018-09-23 18:43:15 UTC  

?

2018-09-23 18:43:22 UTC  

What

2018-09-23 18:43:29 UTC  

"Broach the topic of the earth being flat today and a barrage of questions inevitably follows: Why does everyone agree the earth isn't flat? Why could you measure the circumference of the earth 2000 years ago in Ancient Greece? Why can you circumnavigate the globe?"

2018-09-23 18:43:30 UTC  

Well you literally are asking for money to excuse slavery

2018-09-23 18:43:53 UTC  

but want us to stop using money as an excuse to not pay for it

2018-09-23 18:44:08 UTC  

>demand money
>"why are you making this about money?"

2018-09-23 18:44:15 UTC  

^

2018-09-23 18:45:31 UTC  

Fred has yet to bring about a substantial argument for why racism as bad or worse as before 1964 still exists and why we should pay reparations for any wrongdoing we have done to Black people

2018-09-23 18:45:34 UTC  

@Mord it wouldn't surprise me if Ukrainians would want reparations for the Holodomor

2018-09-23 18:45:36 UTC  

So irrational

2018-09-23 18:46:04 UTC  

Or the Armenians for their genocide

2018-09-23 18:46:15 UTC  

I think the justification for Holocaust reparations was that Jews were displaced from Europe as a result and that the Germans needed to pay for their resettlement elsewhere

2018-09-23 18:46:15 UTC  

Or Poland demanding WW2 reparations in retaliation for being ordered to accept migrants

2018-09-23 18:46:26 UTC  

You are wrong

2018-09-23 18:46:29 UTC  

But then again I’m not Armenian so that was a guess

2018-09-23 18:46:33 UTC  

Why should we concede

2018-09-23 18:46:48 UTC  

also they were paid immediately after to people who survived it first hand

2018-09-23 18:46:54 UTC  

@Fred the Fish you're not being rational

2018-09-23 18:47:03 UTC  

you're ignoring the fundamental problems with the idea of reparations

2018-09-23 18:47:30 UTC  

Your plan is about as rational as people who say "if the government gave everyone money we'd all be rich"
You have put zero thought into it

2018-09-23 18:48:55 UTC  

how much money do you suggest paying to black people?

2018-09-23 18:49:39 UTC  

It would be a waste of time

2018-09-23 18:49:42 UTC  

do you want to know what Congress's conclusion would be

2018-09-23 18:49:42 UTC  

If you can find a way to resurrect a slave owner, you can charge him for reparations. Otherwise, it is unjustifiable

2018-09-23 18:49:48 UTC  

it would be, "holy shit, this is way too expensive"

2018-09-23 18:49:52 UTC  

"let's not do this ever"

2018-09-23 18:50:17 UTC  

hypothetically they decide to pay $1000 to every single black person in this country

2018-09-23 18:50:29 UTC  

37,144,530 x 1000

2018-09-23 18:50:39 UTC  

that's $37,144,530,000

2018-09-23 18:51:06 UTC  

So you're saying the bank bailout was good

2018-09-23 18:51:26 UTC  

bailing out a fundamental part of the American economy is not comparable to paying reparations to one subset of the country

2018-09-23 18:51:36 UTC  

Yes or no, do you think the bank bailout was a good decision? @Fred the Fish

2018-09-23 18:52:01 UTC  

I just want to determine if you are arguing in bad faith here

2018-09-23 18:52:23 UTC  

my guess would be no

2018-09-23 18:52:47 UTC  

If the bank bailout was not a good decision, why are you using it as an example of how a mass payout can be conducted successfully?

2018-09-23 18:53:59 UTC  

You either support the bailout or you simply don't care if your arguments make sense so long as you get what you want

2018-09-23 18:55:09 UTC  

The latter means you're willing to decieve people to get your payoff, why should anyone take what you say seriously if that is the case?