Message from @NormieCamo
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@agag
The problem is that "received" could be referring to revelation. There is also some clear tension between the "judaizers" and Paul, like the debate over circumcision. That clear gospel story doesnt exist in the didache nor in james. I dont think you have this coherent religion in early christianity.
Can we go for Meritocracy instead of Democracy?
Or Meritocratic democracy?
@John 313 The Greek language used in this passage is used in other philosophical traditions to denote important traditions passed from teacher to student. Paul never says he received this creed from Jesus, sayind that it's referring to revelation is speculative. Don't you think that's something he'd want to note? Receiving the creed from Peter or another member of the Jerusalem Church lines up perfectly with Paul's description of his life. We know that St. Paul visited St. Peter and stayed with him for 15 days. What do you think they were talking about?
Didache confirms an early Christian belief in the Eucharist and in eternal life through Jesus Christ. How does the Gospel story not exist in it? And James barely even mentions Jesus, though when it does he calls him the Christ. James was writing to people who were already Christian, there's no particular need for him to recount the Gospel story.
it would be a real shame if I just invalidated your little fantasy
whoops! did I just do that!
my bad
related
nobody tell him the reason that "africans" are so "diverse"
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nobody tell him that it's because north africans (ie: not black) have an entirely different genetic heritage, and are mostly arab or caucasoid
obviously there is a wide gap between them and sub saharan jungle apes, as evidenced by the fact that they can actually form civilization
I sometimes wonder if sub saharan africans would even exist today had they not been colonized, or whether the dozens of diseases we've helped them survive would have wiped them out
>Evolution in that form
@Fred the Fish thank you for being such an uneducated piece of low hanging fruit, it really helps us dish out the redpills
el graeco has nothing to do with recent out of Africa
and nobody believes the solutrean shit
most facts were contrary to consensus at some point
it's a very implausible theory
stone-age people crossing a 3000 mile ice bridge to go somewhere they wouldn't have even known existed
also Clovis people dna shows they're related to both contemporary paleolithic Siberian peoples and modern Native Americans
so there was an interesting argument i read in a book a while ago
if someone is having a crisis of faith, but have yet to depart their faith, wouldn't it be smarter it kill them then, before they depart?
they would then have eternal salvation in heaven
as opposed to eternal suffering in hell
#1 btw
weird only for a split moment it was for me
@agag are you still a locke-ite?
yeah
this country is based more or less completely on his ideas, it's hard to like the American system and not be a Lockeite
do you believe he was right about tabula rasa?
I don't think we're a completely blank slate but I think it's mostly true
there's inborn knowledge but a lot of what we consider innately human traits are learned and won't exist without education
like language
Lets go back some time, has everyone here heard of the Giant-impact hypothesis[1], if so you know thats its the most likely cause of the formation of the moon and two of my favorite supporting facts are 1 moon samples indicate that the Moon's surface was once molten and 2 the stable-isotope ratios of lunar and terrestrial rock are identical, implying a common origin, so along with some other things its relatively plausible and widely excepted. Now I want you to imagine for a second what it would be like to be alive when this took place, what you write down. What im saying is there is a common thread through out the historical texts that have been separated geographically all over the world and they all say the same things about some great catastrophic events, im saying events because of occurrences like meltwater pulse 1B[2] and such, now before I move on I would propose that this be circumstantial evidence for other wild and extravagant claims put forth in these same texts, in other words if they got these these things right why would they be wrong in the very same texts about all the rest of the claims, couple that with all the archaeological evidence as well but we will discus that at a later time.
Moving on, with the fact of a planetary collision there remains a question, what on earth is there bacteria and spores doing thousands of miles above our own atmosphere[3][4]. Add that to the fact of water on the moon[5] and the recent discovery of a possible body of liquid on mars[6]. What if we got samples from all three sources and compared them and they were found to be identical, now that would be something! What would it mean for the outlandish claims of the ancients or other civilizations and such things?
[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant-impact_hypothesis
[2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meltwater_pulse_1B
[3]https://www.livescience.com/26645-microbes-in-the-sky.html
[4]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC546658/pdf/applmicro00228-0103.pdf
[5]https://www.express.co.uk/news/science/1006249/NASA-news-Moon-water-confirmed-surface-ice-caps
[6]https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2018/07/news-lake-found-mars-water-polar-cap-life-space/