Message from @oh, your with her now?

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2018-09-28 19:18:19 UTC  

they were absorbed by the Southern Kingdom after the Northern one ceased to exist

2018-09-28 21:47:25 UTC  

Israel is the perfect ethnostate

2018-09-28 21:49:02 UTC  

25% arent even jews so not really

2018-09-28 22:03:13 UTC  

japan is probably the perfect ethnostate

2018-09-28 22:03:24 UTC  

(thought they are dying more than reproducing)

2018-09-28 22:56:49 UTC  

Vril just wants to find a reason to hate and discredit Jews more than he does now

2018-09-29 00:56:45 UTC  

yo

2018-09-29 12:43:26 UTC  

@Lee Oy Vey

2018-09-30 05:48:51 UTC  

Saw someone post this in Chat earlier but it had no responses, curious what y'all think about it https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/9/28/17914308/kavanaugh-ford-question-dodge-hearing-chart

2018-09-30 05:49:06 UTC  

You can skip their fluff and just read the transcripts

2018-09-30 05:50:33 UTC  

@Xenoframe It's the transcripts I'm more talking about, so the source shouldn't really matter unless they doctored it or some shit

2018-09-30 09:02:10 UTC  

Is saying "I dont remember" not dodging a question

2018-09-30 09:02:16 UTC  

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2018-09-30 13:25:12 UTC  

Ban Usury

2018-09-30 19:18:35 UTC  

@agag Saying the Paul's received tradition is revelation is indeed speculative but so is speculating that he got it from people. Both are possible. All we really know of Paul's source of knowledge is claimed revelation and secret messages in the scripture.

Believing in Jesus is indeed necessary for eternal life and I dont really see a problem with how it describes the eucharist. It's important what it doesnt mention. It doesnt mention the deity of Christ, worship of Christ, the incarnation, the crucifixion, or the trinity in other words it doesnt mention the most important doctrinal points of christianity.

2018-09-30 19:18:53 UTC  

Obviously here our knowledge is limited. Sadly we do not have the writings of sects that died off, we have what their opponents said about them. Early christianity was messy with loads of different sects and trends. Ebionites who were jewish Christians thought of Paul as a manifest heretic and apostate which is pretty interesting. They revered James the brother of jesus.

2018-09-30 19:19:14 UTC  

I think that's the main problem with arguing about early christianity. We are just left in the dark about so much of it. It comes down to faith then.

2018-09-30 19:29:48 UTC  

@John 313 It's a little bit speculative but significantly less so than saying it was revelation. It lines up perfectly with the fact that Paul visited St. Peter in Jerusalem and stayed with him. As well, note that the 1 Corinthians 15 creed specifically mentions Peter and James, but doesn't name any other Apostles. These are the same two, and the only two, Apostles that St. Paul met with while in Jerusalem.

That the Didache mentions the Eucharist is important. There is no Eucharist without the passion. And the Didache uses the same baptismal formula as the Gospel of Matthew; "And concerning baptism, baptize this way: Having first said all these things, baptize into the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit."

2018-10-01 08:35:54 UTC  

@oh, your with her now? I was being rhetorical with the question

2018-10-01 08:36:05 UTC  

What was its purpose

2018-10-01 08:36:33 UTC  

Are you trying to say democracy is more collective than fascism?

2018-10-01 08:37:16 UTC  

No im demonstrating a very prominent example of state interest being congruent with national interest being negative

2018-10-01 08:37:41 UTC  

Which seems to be the goal of the fascist conception of the state

2018-10-01 08:38:46 UTC  

Well it is and if you also deduced from Gentile that there can't be any divergency. So simply put the people who are not with the organic unit need to be cast aside.

2018-10-01 08:39:13 UTC  

It sounds horrible but frankly if there are people out there who want to shut me down or want to put this nation in danger, I want them out of here. Pack your crap and go!

2018-10-01 08:40:08 UTC  

However what I think Fascism shouldn't be quite that black and white about it.

2018-10-01 08:40:21 UTC  

Yeah but nations often dont agree with the path that should be taken, the states entire function is to adjudicate.

2018-10-01 08:40:26 UTC  

I think it should be more pragmatic.

2018-10-01 08:40:37 UTC  

Internally agree, to clarify

2018-10-01 08:40:49 UTC  

Democracy or any form of represenative governance is very ineffective.

2018-10-01 08:41:03 UTC  

Gridlock, corruption, special interests....trivial concerns

2018-10-01 08:41:44 UTC  

But fascism is an exponent of representative government, at least thats what i gather from its intellectuals

2018-10-01 08:43:27 UTC  

They would tell you fascism is more "democratic" than democracy itself

2018-10-01 08:43:34 UTC  

Which in theory they're correct

2018-10-01 08:43:36 UTC  

However....

2018-10-01 08:43:49 UTC  

In practice history will dictate this isn't the case

2018-10-01 08:45:16 UTC  

I don't really subscribe to the aristotelian classifications of governmental structures so when I say representative I mean it literally, not necessitating democracy or republicanism, but the state making its interests congruent with the interests of the people.

2018-10-01 08:46:50 UTC  

Like I can get where they are coming from. Like Hitler and his idea of the Volkish state, but again, the national interests are often not `good`.

2018-10-01 08:47:20 UTC  

And I'll also acknowledge that qualifying `good` is a separate problem

2018-10-01 08:49:13 UTC  

It is