Message from @PainSeeker5

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2018-10-01 09:26:14 UTC  

These things were reality pre reformation

2018-10-01 09:26:47 UTC  

One thing you must understand it took a long time to build this hegemony, it is going to take a long time to tear it down

2018-10-01 09:26:52 UTC  

Brick by brick

2018-10-01 09:27:05 UTC  

To have Fascism as a flash in the pan movement is the short road to failure

2018-10-01 09:27:10 UTC  

No its not, its already coming down lol

2018-10-01 09:27:59 UTC  

I wouldn't say it's coming down but the foundations have been shattered

2018-10-01 09:28:16 UTC  

A few more pivotal events must occur for the masonry to start crackling and tumbling down

2018-10-01 09:28:29 UTC  

Again, it will not happen overnight

2018-10-01 09:28:37 UTC  

And to be fair I'm not an absolutist

2018-10-01 16:05:37 UTC  

Ok, how would you prevent Corporations from donating to candidates and congressman directly? Under our current system of course

2018-10-01 16:06:38 UTC  

Under our current system, it’s currently legal to donate to candidates as a corporation indirectly under Super PACs

2018-10-01 16:06:49 UTC  

So rid it?

2018-10-01 16:07:05 UTC  

What instead

2018-10-01 16:07:36 UTC  

The thing is, it’s hard to trust public opinion as doing a good job as it can drastically change over a week

2018-10-01 16:08:04 UTC  

Let’s say majority public opinion wants to go to War with Russia

2018-10-01 16:08:08 UTC  

Hypothetical

2018-10-01 16:08:33 UTC  

If the congressman realizes this is a shit idea and doesn’t support war with Russia

2018-10-01 16:08:46 UTC  

He is seen as unpopular and doesn’t get enough donations

2018-10-01 16:08:53 UTC  

This starved and dies

2018-10-01 16:09:15 UTC  

I agree they should be paid less but not cut off salary

2018-10-01 16:09:24 UTC  

Not 100% ppl have to disagree

2018-10-01 16:09:30 UTC  

A majority can disagree to the same effect

2018-10-01 16:09:52 UTC  

I can agree with that

2018-10-01 16:10:57 UTC  

Yes, a small subsidiary from the government of about 10-50k should be enough

2018-10-01 16:11:01 UTC  

10 is a little low

2018-10-01 16:11:12 UTC  

As who knows how public opinion might switch

2018-10-01 16:11:41 UTC  

Also @Fsypro, what limit from individuals do you propose should be for donations

2018-10-01 16:12:32 UTC  

The reason why I ask is wealthy individuals still exist and should they be limited

2018-10-01 16:12:34 UTC  

Or not

2018-10-01 16:16:28 UTC  

Not bad idea

2018-10-01 16:16:50 UTC  

One thing I have a small problem though

2018-10-01 16:16:57 UTC  

Actually a big problem

2018-10-01 16:17:07 UTC  

Is where the candidate is

2018-10-01 16:17:26 UTC  

An example is a conservative in a liberal district

2018-10-01 16:17:51 UTC  

Under your system, the politician has to appeal to the populous more

2018-10-01 16:18:19 UTC  

What if the values of the politician are against the people’s?

2018-10-01 16:18:26 UTC  

Do they get screwed

2018-10-01 16:18:31 UTC  

Due to lack of donations

2018-10-01 16:21:46 UTC  

So let’s establish common ground

2018-10-01 16:22:05 UTC  

The donation system should be a limit from 1000$ per individual

2018-10-01 16:22:28 UTC  

Base salary of congressman should not exceed twice that of state’s minimum wage