https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-ehUJqerH4

we kinda ended up fucking up qing with all that opium though

imo @IUisbae's position can be sumarized as this: war could be an important condition for technical development, but is not a sufficient condition

yes that is my position

IQ could matter

but war is an important catalyst

for innovation

especially back then

there is very little need for innovation unless there is war

Look at where we went technologically between the first world war and today

Why does America invent so much stuff

culture of inventing i guess

and that too

american didn't invent that much though, The germans invented most of the stuff. and the USA ran with it

because there's economic motivation and our two favorite pastimes include baseball and fucking people up

germans are the smartest europeans

the US developed those inventions

honestly

hands down

just like the greeks and the romans

regardless of their ethicality, there intelligence is very high

their

the greeks laid the groundwork and the romans perfected it

no doubt about it

exactly @TradChad

Wehraboo d e t e c t e d

I've been trying to figure out why China used to be more developed then Europe

then europe overtook it

and that reason is war

i think

maybe china was never more developed

r o f l

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I'd argue Qing Dynasty

it was more developde

Germany capitulated already my dude

developed

sorry to break it to ya

no @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] . you forget that there were 2 germanies until 1990's.

that's half of the population under marxist ideology for decades