inb4 deflection

lol

I won’t have Vedic pagans doubting my faith in god

lmao

see

saying that you get rewarded for good deeds

How do i get Christian

Im a SDA

doesnt counter that you get into heaven through christ alone

Why is it such a surprise that you have to be a good person to get into heaven ? @Turia

So call me legalist or whatever

James 2:14-26

**James 2:14-26 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

```Dust
Faith without Works Is Dead

<14> What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you? <15> If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food, <16> and one of you says to them, "Go in peace; keep warm and eat your fill," and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? <17> So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. <18> But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. <19> You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. <20> Do you want to be shown, you senseless person, that faith apart from works is barren? <21> Was not our ancestor Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? <22> You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was brought to completion by the works. <23> Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness," and he was called the friend of God. <24> You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. <25> Likewise, was not Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by another road? <26> For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is also dead. ```

if you believe in christ you will be a good person

@Outboarduniform can you answer the question of whether you support the cia or not?

people lie about believing all the time

Not inherently true in the slightest @Turia

No really

@Chancellor Federalist <#421510868325498890>

Sola Fide is pretty dumb tbqh

If Christ saves those who believe in him

You need both works and faith kek

and the fruit of the saved are good deeds

then they will do good deeds

hey man turia man

Romans 10:14-15

**Romans 10:14-15 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<14> How then shall they call on him, in whom they have not believed? Or how shall they believe him, of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear, without a preacher? <15> And how shall they preach unless they be sent, as it is written: How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, of them that bring glad tidings of good things! ```

if they are saved

What do these verses mean

to you

sola fide theoretically implies psychopathic mass murderers who have faith get saved

you can't have faith if you do that

?

implying that these people dont lie

You’re saying I can’t believe in god and kill somebody ?

Delusion

what if they really did though?

no

@Turia Why did you ignore this:
James 2:14-26

**James 2:14-26 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<14> What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? <15> If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, <16> And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? <17> Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. <18> Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. <19> Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. <20> But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? <21> Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? <22> Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? <23> And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. <24> Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. <25> Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? <26> For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ```

are you saying killing someone is the same as a psychopathic mass murderer?