Message from @Turia

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2018-10-04 04:12:30 UTC  

It's a difficult issue that is posed too, because the "YHWH" is Hebrew and most of the NT is Greek

2018-10-04 04:12:33 UTC  

John 8:58

2018-10-04 04:12:34 UTC  

**John 8:58 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<58> Jesus said to them: Amen, amen I say to you, before Abraham was made, I am. ```

2018-10-04 04:12:40 UTC  

bro, if someone in a literal history book says hey here's a parable

2018-10-04 04:12:45 UTC  

John 8:58 NIV

2018-10-04 04:12:45 UTC  

**John 8:58 - New International Version (NIV)**

```Dust


<58> "Very truly I tell you," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I am!" ```

2018-10-04 04:12:45 UTC  

DRA is so based

2018-10-04 04:12:49 UTC  

Sri Dharma Pravartaka Acharya, he has a Phd in religious studies. I believe he studied with catholics for a while as well on bibilical hermeneutics and interpretation. You might say he is a little biased given his religious background, but his religious academic background is pretty hard to dismiss. Plus the guy spends hours talking about sexual and liberal degeneracy and atheism in the modern world, so I can't just call him a liberal academic. @Immensa Despite the name he is actually a white guy of Spanish and English descent.

2018-10-04 04:12:50 UTC  

Yeah, its a way that greek functions and modifies language

2018-10-04 04:12:52 UTC  

John 8:58 KJV

2018-10-04 04:12:52 UTC  

**John 8:58 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<58> Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am. ```

2018-10-04 04:12:55 UTC  

then the parable is not literal

2018-10-04 04:12:56 UTC  

@Turia Jesus did not say here is a parable

2018-10-04 04:12:58 UTC  

but the book is still literal

2018-10-04 04:13:00 UTC  

Mark 13:32 is not a parable

2018-10-04 04:13:00 UTC  

**Mark 13:32 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<32> But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. ```

2018-10-04 04:13:03 UTC  

then he's being literal

2018-10-04 04:13:06 UTC  

@agag is Mark 13:32 a parable

2018-10-04 04:13:07 UTC  

**Mark 13:32 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<32> But of that day or hour no man knoweth, neither the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but the Father. ```

2018-10-04 04:13:09 UTC  

you're the one calling him a liar

2018-10-04 04:13:21 UTC  

how do you know what christ knew while on earth

2018-10-04 04:13:22 UTC  

Ok so do you believe jesus is all knowing or not @Turia

2018-10-04 04:13:24 UTC  

I dont get it why not just reference the original bible smh

2018-10-04 04:13:28 UTC  

agnostic here

2018-10-04 04:13:29 UTC  

i believe what jesus taught

2018-10-04 04:13:33 UTC  

there's several versions dood

2018-10-04 04:13:33 UTC  

no mark 13 isn't a parable

2018-10-04 04:13:36 UTC  

Matthew 5:10 ESV

2018-10-04 04:13:37 UTC  

**Matthew 5:10 - English Standard Version (ESV)**

```Dust


<10> "Blessed are those who are persecuted for righteousness' sake, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. ```

2018-10-04 04:13:37 UTC  

Yes or no

2018-10-04 04:13:40 UTC  

What exactly is that verse saying?

2018-10-04 04:13:42 UTC  

Is christ all knowing or not

2018-10-04 04:13:44 UTC  

mark 13:32-37 isn't a parable

2018-10-04 04:13:44 UTC  

**Mark 13:32-37 - New King James Version (NKJV)**

```Dust
No One Knows the Day or Hour

<32> "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. <33> Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is. <34> It is like a man going to a far country, who left his house and gave authority to his servants, and to each his work, and commanded the doorkeeper to watch. <35> Watch therefore, for you do not know when the master of the house is coming—in the evening, at midnight, at the crowing of the rooster, or in the morning— <36> lest, coming suddenly, he find you sleeping. <37> And what I say to you, I say to all: Watch!"```

2018-10-04 04:13:45 UTC  

one of my favorites

2018-10-04 04:13:46 UTC  

>believing what jesus taught but its a revision

2018-10-04 04:13:57 UTC  

Matthew 5

2018-10-04 04:14:01 UTC  

what's a revision

2018-10-04 04:14:01 UTC  

darn

2018-10-04 04:14:08 UTC  

Turia yes or no is christ all knowing or not

2018-10-04 04:14:08 UTC  

Matthew 5:1-12