Message from @Dyno

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2018-10-06 05:04:43 UTC  

He initiated all movement. The Unmoved Mover.

2018-10-06 05:04:45 UTC  

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2018-10-06 05:04:50 UTC  

God bless America

2018-10-06 05:05:01 UTC  

👌🏼

2018-10-06 05:08:17 UTC  

Well fuck me I guess I just became a Theist

2018-10-06 05:08:21 UTC  

That makes too much sense

2018-10-06 05:08:27 UTC  

<:RedPill:356316562057068545>

2018-10-06 05:09:06 UTC  

lol

2018-10-06 05:09:33 UTC  

why is ezra mod not senior mod

2018-10-06 05:09:38 UTC  

I thought he was senior mod

2018-10-06 05:09:45 UTC  

good

2018-10-06 05:10:16 UTC  

Well the more I think about it the more it makes more sense because that this God would exist outside of the space of reality since It created the space, so it doesn't have to follow the standard laws of Physics that we understand or try to understand now.

2018-10-06 05:10:39 UTC  

Correct.

2018-10-06 05:10:40 UTC  

Since you can't have an infinite explosion and regression of the universe like some would theorize to the beginning of *our* universe now, something had to have started the space

2018-10-06 05:11:02 UTC  

yes

2018-10-06 05:11:11 UTC  

you're getting there

2018-10-06 05:11:16 UTC  

so what god is that

2018-10-06 05:11:18 UTC  

This thing could bend its own physics and think itself into existence and we wouldn't be able to explain it with our own physics, because he created the space that those physics exist and he's outside of that space

2018-10-06 05:11:25 UTC  

@GrandxSlam *trinity

2018-10-06 05:11:36 UTC  

*trinity

2018-10-06 05:11:36 UTC  
2018-10-06 05:11:50 UTC  

Correct, you are making the right inferences.

2018-10-06 05:12:02 UTC  

who knows

2018-10-06 05:12:18 UTC  

@Ben well hang on, God didn't think itself into existence

2018-10-06 05:12:24 UTC  

So once that's settled, the question becomes which religion is correct?

2018-10-06 05:12:27 UTC  

God is eternal

2018-10-06 05:12:38 UTC  

always existent

2018-10-06 05:12:42 UTC  

No i think he means God could will himself into the physical realm

2018-10-06 05:12:42 UTC  

everything has a begining though

2018-10-06 05:12:58 UTC  

not God

2018-10-06 05:13:02 UTC  

because God is outside of our universe

2018-10-06 05:13:08 UTC  

Exactly, the physics that we try to use to explain the creation of this God are completely irrelevant because he doesn't exist within that sphere, he's outside of those powers.

2018-10-06 05:13:21 UTC  

Yes but he could break physics and insert himself in our universe if He pleased

2018-10-06 05:13:22 UTC  

how do we know that

2018-10-06 05:13:40 UTC  

yeah, that's the problem with the "well who created god" argument @Ben

2018-10-06 05:13:45 UTC  

He did

2018-10-06 05:13:50 UTC  

He can will that thought of existence

2018-10-06 05:14:14 UTC  

He is not confined to space-time. Space-time is a limitation of the physical world.

2018-10-06 05:14:16 UTC  

There's no reasonable physical theory we can make up and prove because he isn't under that control

2018-10-06 05:14:22 UTC  

God is therefore eternal.

2018-10-06 05:14:41 UTC  

Right, the scope of empiricism is the natural world and the natural world only.