Message from @Salo Saloson

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2018-07-14 18:24:43 UTC  

You’re kneeling/bowing to an idol. That’s not allowed according to the text

2018-07-14 18:25:24 UTC  

I'm sure they did pray to Christ, as to why they would ask for intercession, it's probably because they want all the help they could get

2018-07-14 18:25:38 UTC  

And calling Mary a "dead woman" is just plain inaccurate

2018-07-14 18:25:59 UTC  

The Bile clearly says that the dead are dead

2018-07-14 18:26:05 UTC  

Yeah, good thing that

2018-07-14 18:26:13 UTC  

You’re kneeling/bowing to an idol. That’s what that is. You can argue in circles about why it’s okay, but it’s kneeling/bowing before an idol. Do you deny that?

2018-07-14 18:26:22 UTC  

But saying that she's a dead woman is inaccurate. That's the Virgin Mary, and that's more than just a dead woman

2018-07-14 18:27:05 UTC  

I deny that it is idolatry. It is asking for intercession from the Virgin Mary, which is perfectly acceptable in Catholic doctrine

2018-07-14 18:27:26 UTC  

And who're you to dictate the faith?

2018-07-14 18:27:27 UTC  

You don’t deny that you kneel before an idol in prayer then, in violation of the verses?

2018-07-14 18:27:39 UTC  

I’m not dictating lmao

2018-07-14 18:27:40 UTC  

>more than just a dead woman
>only mentioned 19 times in the Bible, astronomically less than any other "important figure"

2018-07-14 18:27:53 UTC  

Would you call the Virgin Mary unimportant?

2018-07-14 18:27:59 UTC  

I’m reading the text and asking if you’re actually following what it said

2018-07-14 18:28:08 UTC  

You clearly aren’t, which is why you’re reacting so negatively

2018-07-14 18:28:18 UTC  

Oh she's important alright, just not someone worth that much reverence

2018-07-14 18:28:19 UTC  

You kneel before idols

2018-07-14 18:28:35 UTC  

Well that's an opinion call, Small Al

2018-07-14 18:28:55 UTC  

There's no dictation going on around here, either. The Bible is clear about this. Christianity isn't a religion that can be "interpreted" any way you want

2018-07-14 18:29:11 UTC  

Oh come on now, Christianity has more interpretations than we can count

2018-07-14 18:29:25 UTC  

This argument proves that. The change in doctrines proves that

2018-07-14 18:29:26 UTC  

So I'm guessing you are accepting of homosexuality, right?

2018-07-14 18:29:30 UTC  

Fuck no

2018-07-14 18:29:34 UTC  

You can ignore it all you want - you kneel before idols. Have a good day lol

2018-07-14 18:30:19 UTC  

But you'd have to an idiot to believe that the religion doesn't get interpreted

2018-07-14 18:30:31 UTC  

The existence of the Nicene Creed is proof of interpretation

2018-07-14 18:30:57 UTC  

The argument of divinity or non-divinity, the argument of saint, of whether angels can be asked for intercession, etc., etc.

2018-07-14 18:32:15 UTC  

Matthew 15:9
But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Catholicism is a perversion, not an "interpretation." The Bible isn't some mysterious book, it's clear and to the point. Tell me WHAT exactly is the point of "intercession?" Why is it necessary, why do catholics use it? Because as far as I can tell there is NOTHING absolutely NOTHING that mentions things like this.

2018-07-14 18:32:55 UTC  

Show me where in the Bible it says that you should ask angels or saints to pray on your behalf

2018-07-14 18:33:19 UTC  

Oh wait, it's something Catholics merely added unnecessarily

2018-07-14 18:33:28 UTC  

Y’all turn Saints and Mary into minor gods and goddesses but 🧐

2018-07-14 18:33:43 UTC  

A perversion? Are we going full Luther now?

2018-07-14 18:35:36 UTC  

CCC par. 2675, "Beginning with Mary's unique cooperation with the working of the Holy Spirit, the Churches developed their prayer to the holy Mother of God, centering it on the person of Christ manifested in his mysteries"

2018-07-14 18:35:46 UTC  

"Mother of God"

2018-07-14 18:35:59 UTC  

how does that not sicken you?

2018-07-14 18:36:19 UTC  

I would never call her the Mother of God. Mother of Jesus/Christ, yes

2018-07-14 18:36:41 UTC  

Or am I supposed to explain away every decision made by somebody else?

2018-07-14 18:36:50 UTC  

Ok maybe you wouldn't, but that hasn't stopped the religion itself from doing so

2018-07-14 18:37:10 UTC  

Well the opinions of laymen didn't affect the Church much either, Al

2018-07-14 18:37:14 UTC  

Literalists or non

2018-07-14 18:38:03 UTC  

So you're just going to pretend like the Catechisms don't exist?