Christ, are we really going to do this shit like every other theological argument?

Y’all kneel before Mary lmao that’s fucked

I don't see what the problem is, here

The problem is that you're calling something idolatry that isn't

I didn't write the Bible, bud. Leviticus 26:1“You shall make you NO IDOLS nor GRAVEN IMAGE. Neither rear you up a STANDING IMAGE. Neither shall ye set up any IMAGE OF STONE in your land to bow down unto it.”

Oops

So what, should we take down the Cross too?

sure, why not? It was only introduced into Christianity when the religion began to become paganized

Now this is some blasphemy

How so?

Do you truly venerate a shape that much?

Small Al on Smite Watch rn

I don't venerate a shape, but it is the symbol of the entire religion

It's a bit much to then say "tear it all down"

And even if you wanted to, the practical reality is that isn't ever happening

Bro all were saying is that you’re in direct violation of the idolatry verses

Alright and that's a fair point. That doesn't make it necessary though. Early christians certainly didn't use it. And I understand that it isn't a realistic goal to think everyone will jusst stop in their tracks, but being true to the Bible matters over wanting please everyone

I don't want to please everyone, fuck the non-Christians of the world for all I care

But to call it idolatry is also wrong

The purpose is not the veneration of the symbol

We do not worship the Cross, and if we did then I'd agree with you

These Catholics kneel before an Idol of Mary, do they not

Those Catholics are asking for intercession

Kneeling is not in and of itself worship

why ask for "intercession" when you could just pray to Jesus himself? Or did Jesus simply die so you could ask for dead men and women to pray for you?

You’re kneeling/bowing to an idol. That’s not allowed according to the text

I'm sure they did pray to Christ, as to why they would ask for intercession, it's probably because they want all the help they could get

And calling Mary a "dead woman" is just plain inaccurate

The Bile clearly says that the dead are dead

Yeah, good thing that

You’re kneeling/bowing to an idol. That’s what that is. You can argue in circles about why it’s okay, but it’s kneeling/bowing before an idol. Do you deny that?

But saying that she's a dead woman is inaccurate. That's the Virgin Mary, and that's more than just a dead woman

I deny that it is idolatry. It is asking for intercession from the Virgin Mary, which is perfectly acceptable in Catholic doctrine

And who're you to dictate the faith?

You don’t deny that you kneel before an idol in prayer then, in violation of the verses?

I’m not dictating lmao

>more than just a dead woman
>only mentioned 19 times in the Bible, astronomically less than any other "important figure"

Would you call the Virgin Mary unimportant?

I’m reading the text and asking if you’re actually following what it said

You clearly aren’t, which is why you’re reacting so negatively

Oh she's important alright, just not someone worth that much reverence