Message from @TraitorGG
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Quite nearly every European country has some sort of nationalist and or identitarian movement
And yes optics matter
because identity politics is a really stupid game
and when you play stupid games you win stupid prizes
It is what nations are built upon?
and perhaps waving a swastika around isnt a good idea
Who is France for? The French.
That is identity politics, you know.
i think everyone agrees that america is for americans
i just think they disagree on who americans are
And Americans are white.
i would call descendants of owned slaves and natives americans too
Just show CivNats facts, have discussions with them, don't degrade them but rather show them basic facts of our reality, and they will change.
but the abhorrent amount of immigrants, legal or illegal, from third world countries especially in africa make it difficult to discern slave owned from immigrated
i don't think everyone agrees that america is for americans. not at all. a whole lot of people think america is for anyone, or that it's a giant open-air shopping mall
@TraitorGG I think it’s kind of only fair to consider descendants slaves and natives as Americans too. Not because of “muh reparations” or anything but just because they were here in such mass numbers in the very early days of America’s history
"america is for everyone"
And @Bean of Texas I hate people who think like that
Maybe.
fuck that gay shit
A country for everyone is a country for no one
I’ve seen people saying that the American flag is racist and that all flags need t be celebrated
Makes me angry as hell
syndrome from the incredibles logic
But voting rights should certainly be restricted for who they were meant for at this country's foundation.
voting rights should be restricted *anyway*
i don't want stupid white people voting any more than i want stupid black people voting
imagine if you need to show an ID to vote
@TraitorGG voting rights is a pretty shaky topic anyway because you can’t just say which citizens can and can’t vote. It sort of defeats the purpose of a citizenship
just imagine how much that would change things
i don't want voting. fuck democracy
Democracy can work if the most qualified can vote
you aught to have at least held a job and only vote in exchange for being on the "first to draft if we go to war" list
No it doesn't. in 1790 the only voters were white, landowning males.
I am a citizen yet I cannot vote? Do you know why? I'm not 18. Thats a restriction and yet I am a citizen.
It is the exact same concept as an age restriction.
yeah but telling people kids should vote
well
nevermind
But the 18 year old age restriction is for a valid reason