I just wish that people would stop being spergs and degenerates tbh

it's telling people this is who we are, we're unique and proud, let's keep our traditions

im not saying they should or shouldn't, but i doubt it'll be a working strategy

no oppression olympics

whites participating in identity politics get called nazis or klansmen

Because half the time they are idiotic and bring a swastika.

and that's probably for the better

Quite nearly every European country has some sort of nationalist and or identitarian movement

And yes optics matter

because identity politics is a really stupid game

and when you play stupid games you win stupid prizes

It is what nations are built upon?

and perhaps waving a swastika around isnt a good idea

Who is France for? The French.

That is identity politics, you know.

i think everyone agrees that america is for americans

i just think they disagree on who americans are

And Americans are white.

i would call descendants of owned slaves and natives americans too

Just show CivNats facts, have discussions with them, don't degrade them but rather show them basic facts of our reality, and they will change.

but the abhorrent amount of immigrants, legal or illegal, from third world countries especially in africa make it difficult to discern slave owned from immigrated

i don't think everyone agrees that america is for americans. not at all. a whole lot of people think america is for anyone, or that it's a giant open-air shopping mall

@TraitorGG I think it’s kind of only fair to consider descendants slaves and natives as Americans too. Not because of “muh reparations” or anything but just because they were here in such mass numbers in the very early days of America’s history

"america is for everyone"

And @Bean of Texas I hate people who think like that

Maybe.

fuck that gay shit

Or just residents.

A country for everyone is a country for no one

I’ve seen people saying that the American flag is racist and that all flags need t be celebrated

Makes me angry as hell

syndrome from the incredibles logic

But voting rights should certainly be restricted for who they were meant for at this country's foundation.

voting rights should be restricted *anyway*

i don't want stupid white people voting any more than i want stupid black people voting

imagine if you need to show an ID to vote

@TraitorGG voting rights is a pretty shaky topic anyway because you can’t just say which citizens can and can’t vote. It sort of defeats the purpose of a citizenship

just imagine how much that would change things

i don't want voting. fuck democracy

Democracy can work if the most qualified can vote