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2018-04-20 00:18:32 UTC  

Very interesting

2018-04-20 00:18:52 UTC  

the massachusetts legislature threatened to secede in 1841

2018-04-20 00:18:55 UTC  

see the european union wouldnt be so bad if all european countries didnt start off hating each other

2018-04-20 00:18:59 UTC  

thats what the us was

2018-04-20 00:19:02 UTC  

little known fact

2018-04-20 00:19:10 UTC  

imagine the european union but all the member states actually like each other

2018-04-20 00:19:11 UTC  

that was us

2018-04-20 00:19:16 UTC  

also less autism

2018-04-20 00:19:28 UTC  

The EU wants to become its own country like the US <:ree:378697077066039297>

2018-04-20 00:19:36 UTC  

yeah but they cant

2018-04-20 00:19:45 UTC  

That’s the good part

2018-04-20 00:19:54 UTC  

because they all hate each other

2018-04-20 00:20:12 UTC  

germans hate frenchies and frenchies hate italians and so on and so forth

2018-04-20 00:20:14 UTC  

They like to leach off eachother too

2018-04-20 00:20:26 UTC  

Greece needs all the shekels it can get

2018-04-20 00:20:29 UTC  

yeah the small ones are basically the dont talk to me or my son versions of the big ones

2018-04-20 00:20:48 UTC  

not even 20 years after threatening secession from the union, massachusetts was sending its boys to kill their southern brethren for seceding

2018-04-20 00:21:03 UTC  

*I r o n y*

2018-04-20 00:21:05 UTC  

the secession was perfectly legal reeee

2018-04-20 00:21:34 UTC  

lincoln was a rude dude for not allowing it and then trying to work it out during his presidency

2018-04-20 00:21:51 UTC  

>letting your country fracture itself whenever it wants

2018-04-20 00:22:10 UTC  

the problem started when the union just outright told the states to fuck off before listening to what they wanted

2018-04-20 00:22:20 UTC  

lincoln should have been assassinated MUCH sooner

2018-04-20 00:22:44 UTC  

"you should not be able to impose laws on us territories that aren't states yet"

2018-04-20 00:22:48 UTC  

that's literally it

2018-04-20 00:22:53 UTC  

Eh, i could never advocate for assassination but i see your point

2018-04-20 00:22:54 UTC  

>not working with your countrymen to better understand the issues they face that are totally different to the ones you face in the north and instead just saying "eh we'll just crush em in like 6 months" but then you get your ass handed to you for 5 years straight

2018-04-20 00:23:04 UTC  

yea that

2018-04-20 00:23:38 UTC  

Read Guns of the South if you want a book about the confederacy winning the war

2018-04-20 00:23:43 UTC  

assassination of political leaders is a gray area in my book

2018-04-20 00:23:47 UTC  

It also has time traveling South African boers

2018-04-20 00:23:50 UTC  

not in mine

2018-04-20 00:23:54 UTC  

they need to have skin in the game

2018-04-20 00:24:14 UTC  

if you don't like your leaders kill them idfc

2018-04-20 00:24:23 UTC  

think about how shitty someone has to be to get assassinated

2018-04-20 00:24:27 UTC  

Assassinations are just morally wrong the way I see it, but I can see a point being made for them

2018-04-20 00:24:45 UTC  

either that or how insane someone has to be to assassinate someone

2018-04-20 00:24:54 UTC  

and telling them how you feel about assassinations probably wont do any good

2018-04-20 00:25:04 UTC  

i think it was montesquieu whose preferred form of government was “monarchy tempered by the occasional assassination”

2018-04-20 00:25:12 UTC  

<:bigbrain:385729869209665536> Assassinate leaders of other countries so they can become destabilized and the Jews can have one less enemy

2018-04-20 00:25:14 UTC  

there are very, very few assassinations that can be justified. Even if someone deserves to die, killing the leader of a nation will often spiral it into chaos unless it has a good enough system to ensure it doesn't.