Message from Deleted User in Nice Respectable People Group #jail

2018-12-10 19:02:12 UTC  

What's the point of optics when your enemies, who have complete control over the mainstream media, as well as major alternatives to them, would call you the same thing anyways, no matter your action?

2018-12-10 19:02:45 UTC  

Slander you in the same way and ruin your life just the same.

2018-12-10 19:03:05 UTC  

It has very little to do with "optics", and saying 'Screw it, they're going to call us nazis anyways" is *exactly* the strategy your adversaries want you to pursue.

2018-12-10 19:04:31 UTC  

You are just relegating yourself and interning yourself in a metaphorical prison everytime you use that mentality to justify the indulgence.

2018-12-10 19:05:33 UTC  

No, I am not pursuing a failed ideology if the past, I only posted a book from which it had influence. James fields Jr was charged and convicted on the basis of media slander and a rigged court system, not evidence, what do you think will happen to you?

2018-12-10 19:06:00 UTC  

This has nothing to do with Fields.

2018-12-10 19:07:41 UTC  

I thought we were talking about optics, correct? That is a case where optics mattered so little because we do not control the narrative, such that it does not matter what we discuss.

2018-12-10 19:08:40 UTC  

All the evidence was in complete defence of fields but because of what the media said and they convicted him on blatant false charges.

2018-12-10 19:09:00 UTC  

Why are we talking about Fields still?

2018-12-10 19:10:07 UTC  

And no, I wish people would in fact stop using the word "optics."

2018-12-10 19:12:03 UTC  

@Caboose 👀 quiet please

2018-12-10 19:12:22 UTC  

I was accused of bad optics and that is such a phrase to defer discussion or action. While I think actions and discussion should be well thought out, it should also be genuine, rather then suppressed because of fear of the enemy. I'm not discussing violence or anything that could be considered as such, only a book with historical significance.

2018-12-10 19:13:06 UTC  

The promotion of which has nothing to do with what we are building and is in fact detrimental to what we are building

2018-12-10 19:13:43 UTC  

And let's not just call MK a mere book of "historical significance" either lol

2018-12-10 19:14:00 UTC  

Stop typing @Caboose

2018-12-10 19:14:22 UTC  

Thank you

2018-12-10 19:14:56 UTC  

ok @Phillip Wiglesworth - FL @Matthias looking forward to seeing ya'll at the conference

2018-12-10 19:15:21 UTC  

What about Mussolini's 'My Life' is that aslo banned?

2018-12-10 19:15:42 UTC  

Didn't you just say you weren't interested in reviving causes of the past?

2018-12-10 19:15:46 UTC  

Which is it?

2018-12-10 19:15:49 UTC  


2018-12-10 19:16:59 UTC  

I'm bringing up books of historical significance with regard to the second world war, which was my intention and as well as the context.

2018-12-10 19:17:42 UTC  

That's great, but it has nothing to do with and is in fact detrimental to IE so we don't want it in our platforms.

2018-12-10 19:18:19 UTC  

Everyone else here is onboard with that.

2018-12-10 19:19:00 UTC  

I was responding to someone who had stated they needed a book gift for their friend who has interest in WWII so I posted that and was going to post various books about it, not just ones from the axis perspective.

2018-12-10 19:19:21 UTC  

I was also going to post a book Patton wrote.

2018-12-10 19:22:31 UTC  

It’s R4, brother. We cannot have that stuff here on our platforms. Read whatever you want. Make private suggestions of books - in DM’s if you want. But here, IE, the org does not allow any NS or Third Reich materials on our platforms in any capacity.

2018-12-10 19:23:25 UTC  

Matt made it clear, but in case it wasn’t...I’ve made it clear at this time.

2018-12-10 19:23:50 UTC  

And specifically, because someone asks that question does not absolve the standards as they exist.

2018-12-10 19:25:24 UTC  

Okay, I understand, I apologise for the infraction. Do what you will, I am not the judge or jury.

2018-12-10 19:26:12 UTC  

Thank you

2018-12-10 19:30:44 UTC  

You'll be out in 18 hours.

2018-12-18 02:04:30 UTC  


After warning you, you continued being snide and rude to people in the server. You're in here for 48 hours.

2018-12-23 00:15:55 UTC  

@Sam Southern - TN The moderation team, with guidance from leadership, has decided to go ahead and remove your posting privileges for a minimum of 48 hours. There are numerous reprimands to your name for infractions we really cannot allow to go further without some form of higher action taken to show you that the organization really asks better of our members, and in some circumstances, require it. Please take this time to carefully consider your actions and things you say, which are indeed unacceptable.

2018-12-23 00:18:04 UTC  

If you wish to discuss it further, you may either DM me, your state coordinator, or ask here in this channel if you are comfortable with that conversation being somewhat "public" among all of leadership.

2018-12-23 00:23:56 UTC  

Interesting choice, okay.

2018-12-23 00:26:28 UTC  

It's a choice you were warned about by Tyler though, so you can't say you didn't know this was a possibility.

Not a big deal, no sense in anyone getting too impassioned over this, but we have to tighten the ship holistically when it comes to Discord and the cultural effects on the organization certain mindsets and behavior cause.

2018-12-23 00:27:46 UTC  

I was unaware the dissident right treated the word faggot as unbecoming, so I didn’t take that into account.

2018-12-23 00:28:22 UTC  

Not sure who would actually.

2018-12-23 00:30:58 UTC  

Second most recent infringement was equally ridiculous as the word nigga is identical to the word nibba with the added 🅱 meme. I disagree with the decisions, but I don’t make the rules.

2018-12-23 00:33:35 UTC  

What I like to ask people sometimes when their language comes off as vulgar and unbecoming, is, "Would you walk up to a stranger who just politely held a door for you, and initiate a conversation with them by saying, 'Thanks. There sure are a lot of fa*-*ots in this store. Aren't there?'" Would you greet every member at an IE meetup with, "Sup, fa*-*ot"? It's just unprofessional. It's not courteous. It doesn't give anyone a good impression of you.