So given that, the most beneficial vehicle for you would be (relatively) low performance, cheap, and very neutral in handling

i cant really afford anything past 8000 dollars so yeah @Leaf me alone

@!papa have you looked into the Nissan 180sx?

not really tbh

not bad pricing tho

It has garnered a lot of fame among drifters, but it had a pretty humble start as a weakly powered platform which was controllable at the limit of traction

it doesnt seem bad

hopefully they got one in wisconsin or minnesota

maybe illinois

I'm not trying to offend you, but if you aren't accustomed to fulll throttle meaning you car is sideways, then you won't benefit from more hp

i cant be offended im not that smart in this area bro

That is good

kek

If you have been driving a yaris, then a RWD turbo manual car will be a significant change, even if it has ~200 hp

ive driven RWD just not a manual RWD

hmm

have you driven auto RWD in the winter, or offroad?

in that RWD i did like 110 for a good while thougj

Have you ever done a burnout, or a doughnut?

no

id fuck up my tires

Yes

But the point is that a manual transmission gives another dimensions of control, and responsibility

yeah i wouldnt wanna drift in a truck or do burnouts

If you were paying for it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDGfzYiDEpI

truck tires are expensive as fuck

each one is like 250 or 300

cheap compared to the 10k laser cut suspension parts

still kek

obviously this is well above our heads

what

about drifting trucks

???

They exist

they also set records in hill climbs

yeah

when i was doing 100 in a truck i got over anything

That is so far removed from most people, it is absurd

trucks climbing hills?

trucks climbing hills very very fast