along with the exterior changes in the facelift there was a change to the front uhhh knuckle or some shit with the suspension. this means that the SVT suspension and aftermarket susppension kits for the pre facelift models will not fit on and mk1.5 (facelifted) model

the rear on the hatches stayed the same though and the euro rear bumper should be mandatory for any zx3 owner

the american bumper on the right is fat and stupid

I agree

stupid crash ratings

https://www.sportscarmarket.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/1977-datsun-280z-coupe-front.jpg

focus looks better <:smork:309402628050124801>

Especially with those giant bumpers

yeah she got a pphat ass

oof

make it AWD

yeah that's the thing keeping focus from being a 10/10 pseudo-rallyboyDD

hardly justifiable though

for the same or less price you'd pay for fabrications and install to make an AWD focus you could buy a rally ready fiesta http://m-sportedition.co.uk/

AWD 240z instead

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AQjXsvEhLyQ

@Leaf me alone that sound tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1ehf0gdoDE

@🥁 ✋🏻

my Suzuki Samurai buddy bought a Miata

I was looking at one next to me in traffic yesterday, they are so small

Yeah they're tiny

Alright you faggots I am willing to exchange gun info and gun advice for auto info and auto advice.

I want to know good options for utilitarian 4x4s that aren't trucks

By not trucks, do you mean unibody as opposed to body-on frame?

Other good questions would be how large you would like it to be, do you prefer NA/Japanese/European, how fast/fuel efficient you require, and what the initial and ultimate purpose are?

also budget

Ideally about tye size of a Jeep CJ, no preference on place, don't care about it being fast nor efficient, purpose is to have a trusty vehicle I can rely upon for heavy use as an utilitarian vehicle so driving on dirt, stones, small rivers that don't reach door level so I can pack up and go innawoods for shooting and hunting.
Budget would be 3000, 5000, 10000 USD, I want the best options for each price.

@Leaf me alone

v8 4.0L with 182hp and 233 torque. 14mpg average. under $5k

^Land Rovers have been favorites for overland expeditions for a while

price of replacement parts might be an issue in the US

yeah they have their issues too

electrical issues as I recall

yeah that's right. i couldn't remember what it was but yeah. that's the thing people mention

but in that case you just get the most basic version you can, in the best overall condition